The Canadian division which was still making money was sold off
to Quebec based Metro Stores long ago and their Ontario stores
rebranded as Metro while A&P in the USA folded completely
(bankruptcy) a few years later.

Somewhat sad...

Maybe, but it's a hard knock life, and when a
company rests on its bay leaves, kaboom is
almost inevitable.

Still a sad thing, though...

If you're reflecting on the futility of
human effort, perhaps, but if a corporation
eventually fails to serve its constituency,
it deserves to go away, though perhaps its
memory might live on.

Do the Metro stores still exist...?

Yes. It's one of the Big 3 in Canada.

So at least the ghost of A&P still remains... ;)

Pretty much only in the persistence of
the 8 O'Clock brand.

Now available at BJ's... (Just saw a coupon for it there) I do
remember Daddy getting that regularly at A&P.... :)

I remember the smell of Bokar; 8 O'Clock
not so much.

The reason why I posted this - chain doughnuts
are pretty interchangeable, except for Krispy
Kreme, which might be marginally better when
hot and fresh but become wretched when old and
cold - I suspect the issue is the grease used.

And the one Krispy Kreme in our area came with great fanfare (and
rejoicing, in some circles)... and a few years later, faded away... I
was unimpressed by them, even hot and fresh....

There are those who say that the appeal was
in their greasiness, which is possible (I
like grease).

I didn't see a substantial difference between
Dunkin and Tim Horton's, though I might have a
regional-based prejudice in favor of the former
(and the fact that a friend's father was the
inventor of the Munchkin (prior to his intervention,
the punched-out dough balls were worked back into
the mass, and when that became economically
unfeasible, discarded altogether - he made a profit
center out of an annoyance and liability).

I remember a donut shop near where we lived in Willow Grove that sold
donut holes as well as their donuts... I don't remember any cutesy
names, just called them donut holes... Probably not part of a chain...
this would have been somewhere 1959-65... We'd go down there and buy a
few holes for a snack...

According to Dunkin's official history, the
little treats were introduced in 1972. Of course,
cooks puzzling over what to do with all those
dough cutouts must have been frying them for
decades before.

By the way, to tie in with your historical
nostalgia as touched on above, in addition to this
guy I met who invented the Munchkin (i.e., the
marketing genius), I also knew the guy who was
originally credited with inventing the floppy
disk (not Dr. Nakamats), but these folks have
been engulfed in pre-Internet oblivion. Another
acquaintance of mine was on the development team
of the first portable computer and is said to
have invented telecommuting - she's become a sort
of Internet celebrity because she fits into the
role of inspiration-for-STEM-girls; but the
achievements of so many go forgotten, which may
be a sad thing.

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Categories: Breads, German
Servings: 2

1500 g Flour, rye
750 g Sourdough
900 ml Water, 30C/85F
1 tb Salt
150 g Molasses

Mix sourdough with a part of the flour and let rest for 5 min. Add water
and the rest of the flour and knead well. Cover and let rest for 2 1/2 -
3
hours at a warm place. Add salt and molasses and kned well. Part in two
halfes and give in oven-forms. Bake for 12 hours at 100C/212F. Let
cool down for one day before cutting.

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Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 05-23-18 09:17 <=-

The Canadian division which was still making money was sold off
to Quebec based Metro Stores long ago and their Ontario stores
rebranded as Metro while A&P in the USA folded completely
(bankruptcy) a few years later.

Somewhat sad...

Maybe, but it's a hard knock life, and when a
company rests on its bay leaves, kaboom is
almost inevitable.

Still a sad thing, though...

If you're reflecting on the futility of human
effort, perhaps, but if a corporation eventually
fails to serve its constituency, it deserves to
go away, though perhaps its memory might live on.

Somewhat the former, but even for the latter, it's the "how are the
mighty fallen" aspect... particularly when it was a good company to
begin with...

Do the Metro stores still exist...?

Yes. It's one of the Big 3 in Canada.

So at least the ghost of A&P still remains... ;)

Pretty much only in the persistence of
the 8 O'Clock brand.

Now available at BJ's... (Just saw a coupon for it there) I do
remember Daddy getting that regularly at A&P.... :)

I remember the smell of Bokar; 8 O'Clock
not so much.

It all blends together for me... Bokar was a stronger flavor, wasn't
it...?

The reason why I posted this - chain doughnuts
are pretty interchangeable, except for Krispy
Kreme, which might be marginally better when
hot and fresh but become wretched when old and
cold - I suspect the issue is the grease used.

And the one Krispy Kreme in our area came with great fanfare (and
rejoicing, in some circles)... and a few years later, faded away... I
was unimpressed by them, even hot and fresh....

There are those who say that the appeal was
in their greasiness, which is possible (I
like grease).

I tend to like grease as well... but it didn't make up for the rest of
the experience... Of course, by the time KK came to town, I had gotten
over my previous addiction to donuts... ;)

I didn't see a substantial difference between
Dunkin and Tim Horton's, though I might have a
regional-based prejudice in favor of the former
(and the fact that a friend's father was the
inventor of the Munchkin (prior to his intervention,
the punched-out dough balls were worked back into
the mass, and when that became economically
unfeasible, discarded altogether - he made a profit
center out of an annoyance and liability).

I remember a donut shop near where we lived in Willow Grove that sold
donut holes as well as their donuts... I don't remember any cutesy
names, just called them donut holes... Probably not part of a chain...
this would have been somewhere 1959-65... We'd go down there and buy a
few holes for a snack...

According to Dunkin's official history, the
little treats were introduced in 1972. Of course,
cooks puzzling over what to do with all those
dough cutouts must have been frying them for
decades before.

I'd expect so... :) Just didn't call them Munchkins, or introduce them
to a large chain's offerings... ;)

By the way, to tie in with your historical
nostalgia as touched on above, in addition to this
guy I met who invented the Munchkin (i.e., the
marketing genius), I also knew the guy who was
originally credited with inventing the floppy
disk (not Dr. Nakamats), but these folks have
been engulfed in pre-Internet oblivion.

If it's not documented on the internet, it never happened, eh...?

Another acquaintance of mine was on the development
team of the first portable computer and is said to
have invented telecommuting - she's become a sort
of Internet celebrity because she fits into the
role of inspiration-for-STEM-girls;

At least she gets her due... :)

but the achievements of so many go forgotten, which
may be a sad thing.

Indeed.

ttyl neb

... Global warming related to the alarming increase in pizza ovens

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