• 796 Beef cutting

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:38:42
    I would think that 1/8 inch would be about as thin as I can manage. You might well be able to do better.
    Your knives are pretty good. I'd suggest
    freezing the beef until it's firm but not hard
    frozen and then slicing.
    We actually have several grades of knives. There is the normal sort of chef's knife which I try to keep sharp as best I can. Then for

    And they're pretty okay. Once or twice over the years
    I've requested a sharpen, but generally you do a good job.

    something that requires a finer shave, I use a ceramic knife that our

    I'm not a fan of the ceramic knife because of the lack of
    heft in the hand, but then I prefer a longer and heavier
    chef's knife than most of my friends do.

    daughter gave us a few years ago. With fresh beef I can do 1/8 inch or
    maybe a little bit thinner. I have heard of slicing semi-frozen meats,
    and do that occasionally -- but I'm usually not taken the effort.

    You just toss the meat into the freezer for a couple
    hours, and then everything is just fine. I'd guess
    I could get 1/10" by slicing and maybe quite a bit
    thinner by shaving.

    For a recipe of this
    nature one could use "shaved steak," a product
    which I don't have much use for, but here it
    looks appropriate.
    We do have some of that in the freezer -- it is carried by BJs and Giant
    on occasion. It does work well for Philly cheese steak sandwiches.

    Another thing that would work well is the H-Mart
    bulgogi meat, which comes frozen and doesn't cost
    too awfully much - though I've seen the price jump
    a lot in the last few years, thanks probably to the
    Food Network.

    We would not put any of the Additional toppings onto our PCS. Only additional topping might be fried or sweated onions (not raw). Also the
    only cheese for us is Cheese Whiz. That is pretty much the only thing
    we use whiz for.
    Title: The Philly Cheese Steak Sandwich
    5 oz Steak (read below)
    Water to moisten

    Steamed meat can be good, unlikely as that sounds.
    Clean Dave drove me an hour to Ted's, a place that
    served steamed hamburgers, and, guess what, they were
    pretty decent.

    2 1/2 oz Desired cheese (read below)

    A lot of cheese: overbalancing the meat, I'd say.

    9 1/2-inch hoagie roll

    I'd say 9.5 oz of meat, and then the cheese would
    be in proportion.

    Fried onions

    Needed for sure.

    Additional Toppings:
    Mushrooms, raw onions,
    Sweet red & green peppers,
    Pizza sauce, lettuce,
    Tomato

    Pizza sauce I can almost see. The other ingredients
    make it not-a-cheesesteak.

    At Olivieri Prince of Steaks in Philadelphia, chef/owner Rick Olivieri
    (third generation) tells us about the original. "It all started in
    1932 with my grandfather Pat. He owned a small hot-dog stand but got
    tired of eating hot dogs every day, so he sent his brother around the
    corner for sliced steak. He prepared it, slapped it into a hot-dog
    bun and was just about to eat it when a cabbie pulled up and said,
    'Hey, that looks good.' The rest, as they say, is history, part of
    which included the addition of cheese in the late 1940's, when they
    were looking to try something new."

    The oddity of this story (though the gist is repeated
    everywhere) is why would his brother have been around,
    and who would be selling "sliced steak." The fortuitous
    appearance of the cabbie and the willingness of Mr. Olivieri
    to give up his lunch are also interesting.

    To make one cheese-steak sandwich, take the steak (Olivieri's
    recommended cut: the eye of the chuck) and slice it very thin. Panfry
    in large skillet with no grease or oil, just enough water to moisten.
    Right before it's done, top with desired cheese (American, provolone,
    mozzarella or Cheez Whiz) until melted. Put meat and cheese on the
    hoagie roll, then top with fried onions. Add additional toppings if
    desired. *Article from Woman's Day magazine*
    From: Michelle Bruce Date: 01-31-95

    In my scanty experience (not in Philadelphia) my favorite
    has been Swiss. Mozzarella is way too bland, provolone tastes
    like puke, and American and Whiz are intrinsically poisonous,
    though, as in your experience, I find that it goes with a
    properly greasy cheesesteak.

    In Philadelphia. Lilli and I had this ambitious plan to sample
    all the big name products in town, but as soon as we got to
    the Pat-and-Geno neighborhood, my taste buds and smeller seized
    up and the thought of a sandwich of any kind repulsed me. As
    soon as we left the area, things returned to normal.

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    Title: Pepper Steak Strips
    Categories: Main dish, Meats
    Yield: 5 servings

    1 ea Env. meat marinade (0.8 oz)
    1 ea Med. onion, chopped
    1 t Bottled brown boquet sauce
    1/2 t Dried thyme leaves
    1/4 c Red wine or water
    8 oz (1 can) mushrooms, drain
    1 lb Round steak, 1/8" strips
    2 T Butter or margarine
    8 oz (1 can) stewed tomatoes
    2 T Unbleached flour
    1 md green pepper, strips
    3 c Hot cooked rice

    Prepare marinade as diredcted on envelope. Marinate beef as
    directed on envelope; drain well. Cover and microwave onion and
    margarine in 2-qt casserole on high (100%) 1 minute. Stir in bouquet
    sauce, tomatoes, and thyme. Mix in beef. Cover and microwave 8
    minutes; stir. Microwave on medium (50%) 10 minutes. Shake flour and
    wine in tightly covered container. Stir into meat Mixture. Add pepper
    strips and mushrooms; mix into sauce. Cover and microwave until meat
    is tender, 6 to 8 minutes. Serve over hot rice. Source unknown

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