• 793 pot was scratch

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, May 26, 2018 02:59:28
    At Bonnie's there is noisy construction within
    a block; Lilli's not for half a mile, but the
    valley produces a lot of echoes.
    Not good; probably noise cancelling headphones would be a good idea for outdoor times.

    Contrary to popular belief, noise-cancelling
    headphones actually intensify many kinds of
    unwanted sounds - as many a passenger has
    chagrinfully discovered on donning them to try
    to counteract such sounds as a baby's crying.

    We have a couple of one burner units--one for home, one for the
    camper. > Both get a fair amount of use.
    They seem to cook satisfactorily on the whole.
    I still, would rather have gas. (G)

    Sure thing, but one does what one can. Out in
    the boonies, the more problematic bottled gas is
    the alternative to electricity.

    The thought never have come into my mind
    until after I was told not to do it.
    Sounds normal.
    What, me normal?
    Normal as in, you don't try something until you're told not to do so. A
    lot of kids work along those lines.

    I seldom operated even that way - what I did
    depended on what I wanted to do, rather than
    what someone told me to do or not do. But it
    hever occurred to me to use a wringer washer in
    that manner until the prompts came.

    And my point is that one should try to avoid
    deliberately misusing language; perhaps the
    slide is inevitable, but perhaps it can be
    stalled or forestalled.
    I don't intentionally misuse it; OTOH, I can make an unlogical thought
    sound perfectly logical.

    Not saying that many of us do.

    Put a cookie sheet under it; that's what I generally do.
    Still seems a waste of effort.
    Would you rather clean up a mess on the floor? (G)

    I'd rather not use the silicon things in
    the first place - strikes me that that was
    an invention for which the need never existed.

    goods popping out--enough other "grease" will do the same
    thing. > ML> But affluent America is still largely in
    the trying to avoid grease stage.
    Depends on which grease it is, some are good for you.
    I figure anything short of 20W is okay for you.
    Olive or canola oil and butter are our usual greases.

    I use what's available. Lard is high on the
    list, but I've found that duck fat is an
    excellent and fragrant multipurpose cooking fat.
    Butter and olive go without saying.

    Most mass-produced cookies aren't that enjoyable.
    My guilty exception is the waffley sandwich
    cookies, sugar wafers I think they're called.
    I don't have a favorite mass produced cookie; some are better than others but most are entirely avoidable.
    I've a soft spot for Pecan Sandies, too, but am
    quite aware that any of my friends can do a
    better job.
    Never been one of my favorites; I gravitate to the chocolate/frosting
    ones.

    Even for ready-made?

    Rare-to-medium-rare is my most compromising
    position, though I did have a restaurant steak
    not long ago that came barely seared on the
    outside and still refrigerator cold inside -
    it was the temperature rather than the texture
    that got me, but get me it did.
    It would would have gotten to me too.
    If they'd only got the steak to room temp, it
    would have been quite acceptable.
    Understood. Some folks are saying that you don't need to warm it up
    before tossing it on the grill any more.

    If the heat source is intense enough, that
    may be true - that way you can get a good
    crust while the inside remains blue rare
    the way I like it. A problem arises when
    a cold-through steak is expected to become
    a warmed-through one, which courts exterior
    toughness and all-around inferior taste.

    Tomato-fennel casserole
    categories: side
    servings: 6

    3 Tb olive oil
    3 md onions, sliced
    2 md fennel bulbs, sliced
    2 to 3 Tb butter
    2 c bread crumbs
    28 oz cn tomatoes, drained, slightly broken up
    1 ts salt
    Freshly ground black pepper to taste

    Preheat the oven to 350F. Grease a 9"-square
    baking pan.

    Heat the olive oil in a skillet over medium heat.
    Add the onions and fennel and cook until soft,
    10 to 12 min. In another skillet, melt the butter.
    Add the bread crumbs and saute briefly, stirring
    to combine well.

    Place the tomatoes in a mixing bowl and stir in
    the onions and fennel. Season well with salt and
    pepper. Pour the vegetables into the prepared
    baking dish and top with bread crumbs. The dish
    can be covered and refrigerated for 2 days at
    this point. Bring to room temperature before
    baking. Bake the casserole in a preheated oven
    for 30 to 45 min, or until lightly browned.

    Serve hot.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, May 26, 2018 17:26:28
    Hi Michael,

    At Bonnie's there is noisy construction within
    a block; Lilli's not for half a mile, but the
    valley produces a lot of echoes.
    Not good; probably noise cancelling headphones would be a good idea
    for > outdoor times.

    Contrary to popular belief, noise-cancelling
    headphones actually intensify many kinds of
    unwanted sounds - as many a passenger has
    chagrinfully discovered on donning them to try
    to counteract such sounds as a baby's crying.

    I've never used them (other than a quick try of Steve's) so couldn't
    tell. He got a pair of Bose at Sea-Tac last summer before we flew home
    and really liked them.

    We have a couple of one burner units--one for home, one for
    the > ML> camper. > Both get a fair amount of use.
    They seem to cook satisfactorily on the whole.
    I still, would rather have gas. (G)

    Sure thing, but one does what one can. Out in
    the boonies, the more problematic bottled gas is
    the alternative to electricity.

    We have a 2 burner propane in the camper, a portable 2 burner, a one
    burner induction unit and I'm not sure what all else in the camper. The microwave is also a small convection oven but we need power (generator,
    if no other power available) to run that.

    The thought never have come into my mind
    until after I was told not to do it.
    Sounds normal.
    What, me normal?
    Normal as in, you don't try something until you're told not to do
    so. A > lot of kids work along those lines.

    I seldom operated even that way - what I did
    depended on what I wanted to do, rather than
    what someone told me to do or not do. But it
    hever occurred to me to use a wringer washer in
    that manner until the prompts came.

    I pretty much listened to my parents; the consequences were rather
    unpleasant if it I didn't.

    And my point is that one should try to avoid
    deliberately misusing language; perhaps the
    slide is inevitable, but perhaps it can be
    stalled or forestalled.
    I don't intentionally misuse it; OTOH, I can make an unlogical
    thought > sound perfectly logical.

    Not saying that many of us do.

    Some do it better than others. Not saying I'm great, but I have bum
    fuzzled people from time to time.

    Put a cookie sheet under it; that's what I generally do.
    Still seems a waste of effort.
    Would you rather clean up a mess on the floor? (G)

    I'd rather not use the silicon things in
    the first place - strikes me that that was
    an invention for which the need never existed.

    Good for some things but not baking dishes, and other of the same ilk.

    goods popping out--enough other "grease" will do the
    same > ML> thing. > ML> But affluent America is still largely in
    the trying to avoid grease stage.
    Depends on which grease it is, some are good for you.
    I figure anything short of 20W is okay for you.
    Olive or canola oil and butter are our usual greases.

    I use what's available. Lard is high on the
    list, but I've found that duck fat is an
    excellent and fragrant multipurpose cooking fat.
    Butter and olive go without saying.

    Duck fat isn't easily available to us, lard is used in small amounts,
    butter is used a lot. Also have a non hydrogenated solid shortening
    (Spectrum brand) that gets used for some things. Oils are the ones
    mentioned above, with sometimes a splash of sesame in stir fries.

    Most mass-produced cookies aren't that enjoyable.
    My guilty exception is the waffley sandwich
    cookies, sugar wafers I think they're called.
    I don't have a favorite mass produced cookie; some are better
    than > ML> > others but most are entirely avoidable.
    I've a soft spot for Pecan Sandies, too, but am
    quite aware that any of my friends can do a
    better job.
    Never been one of my favorites; I gravitate to the
    chocolate/frosting > ones.

    Even for ready-made?

    If ready made is the only choice and I want a cookie bad enough. (G)

    not long ago that came barely seared on the
    outside and still refrigerator cold inside -
    it was the temperature rather than the texture
    that got me, but get me it did.
    It would would have gotten to me too.
    If they'd only got the steak to room temp, it
    would have been quite acceptable.
    Understood. Some folks are saying that you don't need to warm it up before tossing it on the grill any more.

    If the heat source is intense enough, that
    may be true - that way you can get a good
    crust while the inside remains blue rare
    the way I like it. A problem arises when
    a cold-through steak is expected to become
    a warmed-through one, which courts exterior
    toughness and all-around inferior taste.

    No standards whatsoever. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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