• shanks

    From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Thursday, November 14, 2019 21:38:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Dave Drum <=-

    I don't even know where we could get
    lamb shanks to try at home. Ditto for pork shanks.

    You should check out the frozen meat aisle as well as the fresh meat
    counter. My store carries frozen lamb shanks already cross cut for
    osso buco.

    A good butcher shop ought to either carry them or be able to special
    order them even if your supermarkets don't.

    The pork shank cut is from the upper leg near the ham while the hock
    is the lower leg near the foot. Shanks are meatier but hocks are
    common and cheap,

    Did you encounter sprats in England; they're small and oily, related
    to herring and sardines.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pan-Fried Spiced Sprats With A Fennel Salad
    Categories: British, Fish, Salads
    Yield: 4 servings

    500 g Sprats
    40 g Plain flour
    2 ts Coriander seeds
    2 ts Cumin seeds
    1 Lime, sliced into wedges for
    Squeezing
    Vegetable oil, for frying
    SALAD:
    100 g Mixed leaves
    4 md Tomatoes, sliced
    1 Bulb of fennel, sliced
    3 tb Extra virgin olive oil
    1 tb White wine vinegar
    1 ts Dijon mustard

    Clean the sprats in the following way: Chop all of the heads off,
    just behind the gills. Slice the belly open from the hole to the
    rear of the fish to the front, and scrape out the guts. Stand the
    fish upright, with it's belly on the chopping board and press the
    spine down to the chopping board, from the front of the fish to the
    tail. Turn the fish over and lift the backbone out, leaving a
    butterflied sprat.

    Spread the salad leaves, tomato and fennel between two bowls. Mix
    the olive oil, vinegar and mustard in a glass/mug/shaker and pour
    over the salad.

    Put the spices in a small saucepan over a low heat, until they
    become fragrant, then put in a pestle and mortar and grind to
    powder. Put the flour on a plate, add the spices and mix it all up
    until combined.

    Heat a large frying pan over a high heat and add a few glugs of
    vegetable oil. Keep the bottle close by as you may need to add more
    to the pan if it becomes dry as you cook the fish. At this point,
    get your bowls close to the hob, plus a serving plate with a couple
    of pieces of kitchen roll on. Take a sprat, press both sides into
    the flour, so that it's covered in flour, then place it skin side
    down in the pan. Add more floured sprats to the pan in a clockwise
    direction until you have completed the circle. Leave for a minute
    then slowly turn them all over in the same direction that you added
    them to the pan and leave for another minute.

    Remove from the pan and pile onto the plate with kitchen roll and
    squeeze the lime over the top when eating them.

    Posted By: Gavin Wren

    From: Https://Brainfoodstudio.Com/

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    Cheers

    Jim

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Sunday, November 17, 2019 02:03:00
    On 11-14-19 21:38, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about shanks <=-

    I don't even know where we could get
    lamb shanks to try at home. Ditto for pork shanks.

    You should check out the frozen meat aisle as well as the fresh meat counter. My store carries frozen lamb shanks already cross cut for
    osso buco.

    I have not noticed them there either.

    A good butcher shop ought to either carry them or be able to special
    order them even if your supermarkets don't.

    I do not grok the term "butcher shop" :-}} Our city used to have some,
    but they went out of business a decade or more ago. We have "butcher
    areas" in most supermarkets, but that is not the same.

    The pork shank cut is from the upper leg near the ham while the hock
    is the lower leg near the foot. Shanks are meatier but hocks are
    common and cheap,

    I have thought of it being a cut from what on me would be called the
    forearm. The few that I have had in restaurants have had that double
    bone which is characteristic of that part of the leg.

    Did you encounter sprats in England; they're small and oily, related
    to herring and sardines.

    I did not.

    I don't think I have ever seen using potatoes as a filler in meatloaf. Interesting idea, but I'm uncertain how it would turn out. In any case,
    I'd not recommend using extra lean ground beef nor non-fat milk.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Meat And Potatoes Meatloaf
    Categories: Beef, Meatloaf, Potato, Bake
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 Onion, peeled
    1 Carrot
    2 Eggs
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce (opt)
    1 ts Dried thyme or other herb
    -salt and Pepper to taste
    2 Potatoes
    2 lb Extra-lean ground beef
    1/2 c Non-fat milk

    Put onion, potatoes and carrot through a shredder, or the fine
    shredding disk of a food processor (it's not necessary to pare potato
    and carrot). Combine with remaining ingredients; mix well. Shape
    into a loaf on a non-stick baking sheet. Bake, uncovered, in
    preheated 350-degree oven 1 hour. Makes 10 servings, 170 calories
    each. From: Earl Shelsby Date: 06 Sep 94

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Monday, November 18, 2019 22:37:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-

    I do not grok the term "butcher shop" :-}} Our city used to have
    some, but they went out of business a decade or more ago.

    We are very happy to have one here. One interesting thing they do
    which they weren't allowed to do back in ontario is process wild
    game on the premises. (Back home, abattoirs could but butcher shops
    couldn't (at least not legally). And they process game for free IF
    you donate half the frozen, cut and wrapped meat to a food bank,
    shelter or similar organization.

    I have thought of it being a cut from what on me would be called
    the forearm.

    Four legged mammals have foreshanks and hind shanks.

    I don't think I have ever seen using potatoes as a filler in
    meatloaf.

    Title: Meat And Potatoes Meatloaf
    1 Carrot
    2 Potatoes
    2 lb Extra-lean ground beef
    1/2 c Non-fat milk

    I think the best cereal filler is fine, toasted, dry bread crumbs
    with crushed crackers coming in a close second (adjusting the salt
    of course). I detest oatmeal in meatloaves other than haggis and
    never soak fresh bread cubes in milk and then wring them out.

    I might try potatoes just as an experiment but I would certainly
    skip the carrot.

    I use 75% lean ground meat with lots of crumbs to absorb the
    rendered fat or 85% lean with fewer crumbs and extra liquid (ketchup,
    tomato sauce, HP sauce etc). 90% or 95% lean would lack flavour and
    have a nasty texture. That's why hunters add suet or lard to ground
    wild game meat.



    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Friday, November 22, 2019 15:53:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller on 11-17-19 02:03 <=-

    I don't even know where we could get
    lamb shanks to try at home. Ditto for pork shanks.
    You should check out the frozen meat aisle as well as the fresh meat
    counter. My store carries frozen lamb shanks already cross cut for
    osso buco.

    I have not noticed them there either.

    Which store(s) have you been looking at...? NC Ruth recently bought a
    lamb shank at that new Wegmans in Raleigh... dunno if it was fresh or
    frozen, though... probably fresh, I'd guess...

    A good butcher shop ought to either carry them or be able to special
    order them even if your supermarkets don't.

    I do not grok the term "butcher shop" :-}} Our city used to have
    some, but they went out of business a decade or more ago. We have "butcher areas" in most supermarkets, but that is not the same.

    We have a few meat markets in Rochester... Skip's Meat Market is a local
    chain, even... Granted, there are fewer of them than there used to be...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Sunday, November 24, 2019 02:02:00
    On 11-22-19 15:53, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: shanks <=-


    I have not noticed them there either.

    Which store(s) have you been looking at...? NC Ruth recently bought a lamb shank at that new Wegmans in Raleigh... dunno if it was fresh or frozen, though... probably fresh, I'd guess...

    I have not really been looking for them at stores. I'd be looking for
    them at a restaurant. Not sure that it is something I'd want to mess
    with trying to cook myself.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: French Beef Stew
    Categories: Meat
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 lb Lean beef stew meat (don't
    Brown)
    8 Carrots -- cut coin shape &
    Rat
    1 c Celery -- cut in pieces
    1/2 pk Onion soup mix
    1 (#2) can whole tomatoes
    4 oz Cooking sherry
    3 tb Tapioca
    2 sl White bread -- cut in cubes
    1 tb Sugar
    1 tb Salt
    4 ds Pepper, thyme -- marjoram &
    Rosemary
    1 pk Frozen peas

    Combine all ingredients except peas. Put in greased baking dish or
    crock pot. Bake, covered at 250 degrees for 6 hours. Last 20
    minutes add frozen peas and bake, uncovered until done. Serves 6.

    Recipe By :
    From: Kaz Langridge Date: 02-19-96
    Intercook

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