• 65 black pudding

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Friday, July 27, 2018 10:48:40
    He ordered the chorizo and eggs, which was good,
    but he noted nutmeg in the sausage spicing! I took
    a taste and decided that there was also cinnamon
    and allspice, so the sausage tasted like British
    Isles black pudding more than any kind of chorizo
    I've ever encountered. It was also reminisceht of
    the blood sausage dessert that Antonio Vigario had
    introduced me to almost a quarter century ago in
    Lisbon.
    I had black pudding in Ireland, and I cannot imagine any sausage tasting anything like that abomination.

    I've liked most version of it that I can recall.
    Is your objection the spicing, the fattiness,
    the bloodiness, or the stickiness, or perhaps
    some of each? Now that I think of it, there
    have been blood sausages that didn't really
    appeal to me - the ones thickened with too
    much starch or sometimes even whole grains.

    Title: Cassoulet
    2 lb Oscar Mayer Ground Pork
    -Sausage

    If you're dying for cassoulet and in a hurry,
    this might be okay, but ground sausage here is
    a strange thing, when Oscar Mayer and others
    make perfectly good other kinds of sausage.

    1 lb Can kidney beans, drained
    1 lb Can white beans, drained
    1 lb Can sliced carrots, drained

    Does anyone use canned carrots any more? That's
    a lot of them, and they don't really belong,
    especially in that quantity. Personally, I would
    use carrot as an accent if anything in such a
    dish. Anyhow, how about a compromise - maybe half
    a pound of fresh-cut carrots (takes about 2 minutes
    to cut), nuked in water to cover until tender,
    maybe 3 or 4 minutes.

    1 lb Stewed tomatoes
    1/8 ts Garlic powder OR
    1 Garlic clove, minced
    1 tb Dried parsley flakes
    4 sl Oscar Mayer bacon

    That's a bit much tomato for the dish - and a bit
    too little garlic. I'd also say a longer slower
    cook and a generous dusting of crumbs on top -
    perhaps two or more dustings - would improve things.

    I sometimes use a pound of smoked sausage such as Polish sausage and
    cut it into thin slices. Omit the browning step and just combine all
    the ingredients and bake. I also leave off the bacon when I do this.
    Has been a favorite here for years.
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    From: Skeeter <prissb@kynd.Net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:01:09

    Good for Skeeter - substituting cooked sausage for
    half the ground would improve things a fair amount.
    So would adding some poultry product - maybe a
    couple chicken drummers if you can't find duck confit.

    I am not sure if Elizabeth David means loose sausage
    in the following recipe; I probably would use some
    kind of link or rope sausage -

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    Title: Le Cassoulet De Castelnaudary
    Categories: French, Beans, Casseroles, Goose, Sausage, Castelnaudry
    Yield: 8 Servings

    2 lb Medium sized white haricot
    Beans
    1 Wing and a leg of preserved
    Goose or
    1/2 Fresh goose
    1 lb Coarse pork sausage
    1/2 lb Bacon
    3 Onions
    4 Cloves garlic
    2 Tomatoes
    2 pt Meat stock

    Cassoulet, a wonderful dish of south-western France, which through the
    years has been raised from the status of a humble peasant dish to one
    of the glories of French cooking. Toulouse, Carcassonne, Porigord,
    Castelnaudary, Gascony, Castannau, all have their own versions of the
    Cassoulet. The ingredients vary from fresh pork and mutton to smoked
    sausages, garlic sausages, bacon, smoked pork and pigs' cheek. The
    essentials are good white haricot beans and a capacious earthenware
    pot (the name Cassoulet comes from Cassol D'Issel, the original clay
    cooking utensil from the little town of Issel, near Castelnaudary).

    Put the beans to soak overnight; next day put them into fresh water
    and cook for about 2 1/2 hours, keeping them just on the boil, until
    they are three-quarters cooked, then strain them.

    In the meantime prepare the stock in which they are to finish cooking.
    Slice the onions and cut the bacon into squares and melt them together
    in a pan, add the crushed garlic, the tomatoes, seasoning and herbs,
    and pour over the stock and let it simmer for 20 minutes. Take the
    pieces of goose out of their pot with the good lard adhering to them.
    (If you are using fresh goose, it must be half roasted; have some good
    pork or goose dripping as well.)

    Put the goose, the dripping, the sausage, and the bacon from the
    stock, at the bottom of the earthenware pot, which has been well
    rubbed with garlic, and the beans on the top. Add the prepared stock.
    Bring the _Cassoulet_ slowly to the boil, then spread a layer of
    breadcrumbs on the top and put the pot into a slow oven and leave it
    until the beans are cooked. This will take about 1 hour, during which
    time most of the stock will be absorbed and a crust will have formed
    on the top of the beans.

    Serve it exactly as is; a good young red wine should be drunk with
    this dish; a salad and a country cheese of some kind to finish will be
    all you need afterwards.

    Duck can be used instead of goose, and at Christmas time the legs or
    wings of turkey go very well into the Cassoulet.

    A recipe of the Castelnaudary version using confit - and tomatoes! -
    from Elizabeth David's 'French Country Cooking'.

    From: Victor Sack, Duesseldorf

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Saturday, July 28, 2018 01:23:02
    On 07-27-18 10:48, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 65 black pudding <=-

    I had black pudding in Ireland, and I cannot imagine any sausage tasting anything like that abomination.

    I've liked most version of it that I can recall.

    I even tried it at a couple of places where it was on the breakfast
    buffet, along with white pudding.

    Is your objection the spicing, the fattiness,
    the bloodiness, or the stickiness, or perhaps
    some of each? Now that I think of it, there

    I cannot say that any of those attributes applied to what I tried. I
    can only say that I definitely did not like it.

    have been blood sausages that didn't really
    appeal to me - the ones thickened with too
    much starch or sometimes even whole grains.

    I suspect that it was blood and oatmeal. OTOH, I can say that Helen
    liked it -- I guess it reminded her of early life in Ireland.

    Title: Cassoulet
    2 lb Oscar Mayer Ground Pork
    -Sausage

    If you're dying for cassoulet and in a hurry,

    Actually, I don't know that I have ever had a cassoulet, nor do I know
    exactly what constitutes one. It just looked like a decent set of
    ingredients when I scanned the day's file.


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    Title: HUNGARIAN SZEGED GOULASH
    Categories: Main dish, Pork
    Yield: 6 Servings

    4 oz Lean bacon
    -- cut into 1/2-inch pieces
    2 lb Boneless pork
    -- trimmed of fat,
    -- and cut into 1-inch cubes
    1 lg Red onion; chopped coarsely
    2 lg Garlic cloves; minced
    2 tb Flour
    2 tb Sweet Hungarian paprika
    2 ts Caraway seed
    1 tb Chopped fresh sage
    2 ts Chopped fresh rosemary
    1 tb Chopped fresh sweet marjoram
    -OR- mild oregano
    2 ts Chopped fresh thyme
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Freshly ground black pepper
    2 c Apple juice or cider*
    2 lb Sauerkraut; drained & rinsed
    2 Tart apples (or more)
    -- cored and sliced
    1 c Sour cream
    Red potatoes or spaetzle
    -or- egg noodles

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    Chopped fresh dill & parsley

    *NOTE: Frozen apple juice concentrate, diluted with 2 parts water
    instead of 3, may be substituted for apple juice or cider

    In a large, deep roasting pan or Dutch oven, saute bacon until crisp.
    Remove with a slotted spoon and set aside. Remove with a slotted
    spoon and set aside, leaving 1 to 2 tablespoons of fat in the pan.
    Add pork cubes gradually, stirring to brown on all sides. Stir in
    onion and garlic, and cook until onion softens.

    Sprinkle flour, paprika, and seasonings over vegetables and meat and
    stir to combine, letting mixture brown slightly. Add apple juice and
    sauerkraut; mix well. Reduce heat, cover, and cook about 45 minutes,
    or until meat is tender. Stir occasionally and add additional apple
    juice or water if needed.

    During the last 10 minutes of cooking, stir in apples and simmer,
    covered, until apples are just tender. Do not overcook. Dish can
    easily be prepared ahead up to this point and then reheated.

    When ready to serve, stir in sour cream, adding a small amount of
    liquid if meat mixture is too dry. There should be plenty of sauce.
    Heat through but do not boil. Serve with steamed (diced or sliced)
    red potatoes, spaetzle or noodles (tossed in a small amount of melted
    butter to moisten). Garnish with dill, parsley, and reserved bacon,
    broken into pieces.

    Source: The Herb Companion - December/January 1993/1994 Typed for you
    by Karen Mintzias

    Recipe posted by: Karen Mintzias

    ! Extracted By: Recipe Extractor v1.03beta, by GGM Data, (c)opyright
    1994

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