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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, August 31, 2018 10:37:42
    me, I chortled in a black humoristic way upon reading
    that Quaker oats were recalled for being contaminated
    with Round-Up.
    Irony...

    I hope whoever was responsible for the contamination
    dies in terrible argony.

    What about jerky...?
    I actually knew you were going to bring that up,
    but consider biltong, Bundnerfleisch, and the
    various dried meats that nomadic peoples made
    and are probably the ancestors of the latter
    of these two.
    After typing that, I did consider the other nomadic peoples... and that
    some timelines are fuzzy.... ;)

    Most timelines are fuzzy!

    Also somewhat related Chinese rou si and rou gan.
    Some brainstorms are potentially universal... ;)

    It's likely circumstances (large animal, not enough
    people to eat it all at once) are universal.

    If you'd said pemmican, I'd have said "maybe,"
    That was one lurking just off the tip of my tongue...

    Though aside from the berries, pemmican is mostly
    the same as rou song (I mistyped rou si).

    Some people do seem to think of beans as a protein food in isolation,
    from what I've been seeing in my reading...
    They're not really complete, but what it takes for
    completion is simply got from most starchy foods.
    Not that they're not starchy in themselves.
    True, true, and also true... ;)

    Yeah, yeah, and yeah.

    Organ building and restoration has plenty of heavy
    lifting and would have been a very nontraditional
    profession for a woman.
    But she was certainly up to it... and a person I enjoyed working with...
    I ended up being her primary assistant... :) She was based in
    Michigan...

    I didn't mean to imply that it was unfit for a woman,
    just nontraditional.

    Which sort of allows me to
    mention a nightclub in Adams Morgan called Madam's
    Organ, which I deliberately omitted from my
    discussion with Dale about that area.
    This being a more downplayed and less obtrusive way to slip it in... :)

    Slightly.

    Actually, women's inclusion into such professions is
    a pretty modern thing. The maker of one of my violins,
    Marilyn Wallin, was the first female president of the
    Violin Society of America, just a couple decades ago.
    She's currently first vice-president.
    So she's keeping her hand in... As we've discussed before, though,
    there've been unsung women throughout the profession for ages...

    Keeping her hand in in a fairly big way - she's one
    of the most respected and successful instrument makers
    in the country.

    Well, I can't bring any examples right to my
    fingertips (not being a regular viewer), but I'm sure
    the Shipps and other watchers could come up with some
    pretty tame foods described as bizarre on the shows.
    I believe I've heard some discussion thereof from time to time.. :)

    Head cheese
    categories: not so bizarre, offal, pork
    yield: 1 batch

    10 c water
    1 hog's head, quartered
    3 pig's feet
    2 ts salt divided
    1 lb onions chopped
    3 Tb chopped parsley
    2 c diced celery
    1 c green onions chopped
    1 ts black pepper
    1 minced hot chile
    3 Tb Cajun seasoning
    4 minced garlic cloves

    Measure water into 5-qt saucepot. Add hog head,
    pig's foot, and 1 ts salt. Cook until meat is tender
    (roughly 150 min) and the pig's foot and head can
    easily be boned. Approximately 3 c liquid should
    remain in saucepot. Add remaining ingredients. Cook
    3 min. Remove meat from liquid. Reserve liquid.
    Remove bones, thicker pieces of skin, gristle and
    connective tissue from meat and discard. Chop meat.

    Mix the chopped meat and the reserved liquid with
    the vegetables and seasoning. Pour into a bread
    loaf pan. Chill thoroughly, overnight. Unmold and
    slice. Serve with toast, a sturdy mustard and cold
    pickled vegetables.

    Andrew Zimmern, Bizarre Foods

    Along the same lines as the occasionally threatened opening of a can of LaChoy chop suey...? (G)
    Or was it chow mein - again a subject I'm not really
    invested in.
    I thought it was the chop suey... and there wasn't really any interest
    in doing so... :)

    Both being more bizarre than the above.
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, September 03, 2018 13:17:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-31-18 10:37 <=-

    Also somewhat related Chinese rou si and rou gan.
    Some brainstorms are potentially universal... ;)
    It's likely circumstances (large animal, not enough
    people to eat it all at once) are universal.

    Thus leading to the potential universal brainstorms... ;)

    If you'd said pemmican, I'd have said "maybe,"
    That was one lurking just off the tip of my tongue...
    Though aside from the berries, pemmican is mostly
    the same as rou song (I mistyped rou si).

    It would appear that lots of foods are the "equivalent of x's y"...

    Organ building and restoration has plenty of heavy
    lifting and would have been a very nontraditional
    profession for a woman.
    But she was certainly up to it... and a person I enjoyed working with...
    I ended up being her primary assistant... :) She was based in
    Michigan...
    I didn't mean to imply that it was unfit for a woman,
    just nontraditional.

    Ok... :)

    Actually, women's inclusion into such professions is
    a pretty modern thing. The maker of one of my violins,
    Marilyn Wallin, was the first female president of the
    Violin Society of America, just a couple decades ago.
    She's currently first vice-president.
    So she's keeping her hand in... As we've discussed before, though,
    there've been unsung women throughout the profession for ages...
    Keeping her hand in in a fairly big way - she's one
    of the most respected and successful instrument makers
    in the country.

    That's good... :)

    Well, I can't bring any examples right to my
    fingertips (not being a regular viewer), but I'm sure
    the Shipps and other watchers could come up with some
    pretty tame foods described as bizarre on the shows.
    I believe I've heard some discussion thereof from time to time.. :)
    Head cheese
    categories: not so bizarre, offal, pork

    Indeed not exactly bizarre.... something I've enjoyed right along...

    Along the same lines as the occasionally threatened opening of a can of LaChoy chop suey...? (G)
    Or was it chow mein - again a subject I'm not really
    invested in.
    I thought it was the chop suey... and there wasn't really any interest
    in doing so... :)
    Both being more bizarre than the above.

    Perhaps... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... to be Frank, I'd have to change my name...

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