One can hope that, but my fear is that our
whining will tone down only in quantity, not
in volume. As someone reminded me recently,
it's all downhill from here.

Not exclusively downhill... there are some better spots than others, for example take Gail's knee surgery which made things better for her after
she recovered... ;)

Downhill can be easy and comforting instead
of disastrous.

I'm back east for meetings and stuff, and
one joy is dealing with yet another friend's
freezer - it's not so bad, because we went
through it last year, but still there is the
ghost of chickens past to deal with.

Funny how that happens...

I'm not laughing. The Whole Foods way of
getting people to buy overpriced chicken is to
put it near the grossly overpriced real meat.

one- or two-serving packs, which would have
made them manageable (they are thighs, after
all). Perhaps Lilli's son, who is due in soon,
can figure things out.

Hopefully... ;) One might have to cook them all up at once in a big
soup pot, and then portion out the cooked meat into meal packets...

Not my problem, whew!

buy a crate of asparagus and serve it twice
a day for a couple weeks, with everyone (as
she claims) cherishing every bite, knowing
that there wouldn't be any more for 11 months.

And having that much, it would hold you for the 11 months there wouldn't
be any... (G) I think once a day for a couple of weeks might still have
been all I'd be able to handle... :)

The internationalization of the food
industry has had interesting consequences,
one of which is that asparagus isn't so
special any more.

The most recent was when she read that a New York
hot dog vendor was selling sausages made out of dog
meat. I noted that it sounded like an April Fool
joke, and only then did she do any legwork, at least
admitting that she'd been duped. There are no doubt
gazillions of readers who don't get corrected and so
spread the cancer; or they don't believe the more
reliable sites that do the debunking.

Or don't know of them, perhaps...

In which case they don't get corrected.

Killing dogs and cats for meat is still legal
in 44 U.S. states but in the state of New York
it is expressly prohibited

Yup, those should have raised a red flag or two... SOW, don't tell our
cats that, it might undermine our threats to them... (G)

One of the sensitive and sensible things
that Annie used to do was to refer to me
as making kung pao cat.

See http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/new-york-chinese -immigrant-sold-hot-dogs-made-with-real-dog-meat/
and the Snopes takedown - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hot-dog-dog-meat/

World News Daily Report sounds rather rag-ish, just from the name... ;)

The name was no doubt put together to
point up the satirical nature and poke
fun at publications such as Weekly World
News and so on.

The original article also had a sidebar with links
to other items headlined
Morgue employee cremated by mistake while taking
a nap
and
Colorado: Hunter claims he was sexually assaulted
by a sasquatch
and
Boston: Members of Midget Crime Gang Suspected of
55 Break-ins

Your typical tabloid articles.... :)

Back in my day, the fake news pretty much
always had some basis in a fact or two,
mostly I admit blown out of proportion and/or
taken out of context and embellished in
strange ways. Also often the lurid headlines
had little to do with the much tamer story
content, which might have had some basis in fact.

the other items in the sidebar being too risque
for this echo.

And probably just as bogus... ;)

Probably? Heh.

Lilli's source was multiplehand, filtered through
a Facebook friend, but that's not a great excuse.

No, not really... Should actually make one more wary... ;)

Depends on whether one trusts one's Facebook
friends. Mine are generally bright people and
don't tend to fall for stuff (Lilli being an
exception). My best prophylaxis, though, is
not to go on Facebook, which I haven't since
last autumn, except possibly once to announce
my survival of the heart attack.

Vampire dip
categories: starter, dip, dairy, tastealike
servings: 12 or so

8 cloves Garlic
- (more If You Can Take It, Less If You Can't)
2 c Shredded Parmesan Or Romano Cheese
8 oz, weight Cream Cheese
- or Mascarpone, A Sweeter, Italian Cream Cheese
4 oz, weight Mayonnaise
14 Oz cn Artichoke Hearts, Drained, Rinsed, And Chopped
1 pn Salt (or More To Taste)
1 ts Fresh Ground Pepper

Preheat oven to 350F.

Peel and mince garlic cloves. Then, sprinkle
a pinch of salt onto the minced garlic, and
mash with a fork until it becomes a lumpy
paste (this helps reduce the amount of large
garlic chunks in the finished product, and
is an optional step).

In a large bowl, combine garlic, shredded
Parmesan, cream cheese, mayo, artichokes,
salt and pepper. Mix until ingredients are
evenly distributed.

Spread into a greased (8x8" or similar)
baking dish, put the lid on and bake 30 min.
Remove lid and bake for an additional 15 min
or until browned and bubbly on top.

Serve with French bread, or, for the authentic
Slaterÿs experience, toasted pita wedges.

bluejeanbaby07 at tastykitchen.com
after Slater's 50/50
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spoke to Nancy Backus about 630 hoo boy, various <=-

I'm not laughing. The Whole Foods way of
getting people to buy overpriced chicken is to
put it near the grossly overpriced real meat.

That would make no difference to us. We have been in the Columbia Whole
Foods exactly once, and don't plan to repeat the experience.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Mixed shellfish with saffron rice
Categories: Rice, Shrimp, Cook4u
Yield: 4 servings

6 tb Olive oil
1 1/4 c Finely chopped onions
1/4 c Diced green peppers
3 Cloves garlic finely mince
1/2 ts Loosely packed saffron
1 c Rice
1 1/4 c Water
Salt and pepper
1 Dried red pepper
1 1/2 c Peeled and diced tomato
1 1/2 c Dry white wine
1 ts Dried oregano
18 sm Littleneck clams, rinsed
1 1/2 qt Mussels, well scrubbed
1/2 lb Shrimp, shelled and devein
1/2 lb Sea scallops, quartered

1) Heat 2 tb of the oil in a saucepan and add 1/4 c of the onion, the
green pepper and 1 clove of garlic. Cook until wilted. Add the saffron
and
cook about 2 minutes longer.

2) Add the rice, water, salt and pepper to taste and cover closely.
Cook
about 17 minutes or just until the rice is tender. As the rice cooks
prepare the seafood.

3) Heat the remaining oil in the kettle and add the remaining onion
and
garlic. Cook until wilted. Stir in the red pepper, tomatoes, wine,
oregano and salt and pepper to taste. Cover and cook about 10 minutes.

4) Add the clams and mussels and cook, covered, about 3 minutes. Add
the
shrimp and scallops. Cook, covered, about 5 minutes. Adjust the
seasoning.

5) Make a border of the rice with a well in the center in a large
serving
dish. Add the shellfish mixture to the center.
From: Vernon Phipps Date: 09-13-95
Cooking Ä

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Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 04-22-18 11:33 <=-

One can hope that, but my fear is that our
whining will tone down only in quantity, not
in volume. As someone reminded me recently,
it's all downhill from here.

Not exclusively downhill... there are some better spots than others, for example take Gail's knee surgery which made things better for her after
she recovered... ;)

Downhill can be easy and comforting instead
of disastrous.

Depending on the gentleness or steepness of the slope... :)

I'm back east for meetings and stuff, and
one joy is dealing with yet another friend's
freezer - it's not so bad, because we went
through it last year, but still there is the
ghost of chickens past to deal with.

Funny how that happens...

I'm not laughing.

That was the "strange" sense of funny, of course...

The Whole Foods way of
getting people to buy overpriced chicken is to
put it near the grossly overpriced real meat.

And hope that people don't have a sense of what things should be
costing...? I'm just as glad we don't have a Whole Foods here... our
choices seem to be a bit more reasonable... :)

one- or two-serving packs, which would have
made them manageable (they are thighs, after
all). Perhaps Lilli's son, who is due in soon,
can figure things out.

Hopefully... ;) One might have to cook them all up at once in a big
soup pot, and then portion out the cooked meat into meal packets...

Not my problem, whew!

Unless he leaves it for your return... ;0

buy a crate of asparagus and serve it twice
a day for a couple weeks, with everyone (as
she claims) cherishing every bite, knowing
that there wouldn't be any more for 11 months.

And having that much, it would hold you for the 11 months there wouldn't
be any... (G) I think once a day for a couple of weeks might still have been all I'd be able to handle... :)

The internationalization of the food
industry has had interesting consequences,
one of which is that asparagus isn't so
special any more.

It's still some special... especially if one balks at paying $4 or more
a pound for it... ;)

The most recent was when she read that a New York
hot dog vendor was selling sausages made out of dog
meat. I noted that it sounded like an April Fool
joke, and only then did she do any legwork, at least
admitting that she'd been duped. There are no doubt
gazillions of readers who don't get corrected and so
spread the cancer; or they don't believe the more
reliable sites that do the debunking.

Or don't know of them, perhaps...

In which case they don't get corrected.

Yup.

Killing dogs and cats for meat is still legal
in 44 U.S. states but in the state of New York
it is expressly prohibited

Yup, those should have raised a red flag or two... SOW, don't tell our
cats that, it might undermine our threats to them... (G)

One of the sensitive and sensible things
that Annie used to do was to refer to me
as making kung pao cat.

When talking to her cats...? Or just when they could overhear... <G>

See http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/new-york-chinese -immigrant-sold-hot-dogs-made-with-real-dog-meat/
and the Snopes takedown - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hot-dog-dog-meat/

World News Daily Report sounds rather rag-ish, just from the name... ;)

The name was no doubt put together to
point up the satirical nature and poke
fun at publications such as Weekly World
News and so on.

That could make sense... :)

The original article also had a sidebar with links
to other items headlined
Morgue employee cremated by mistake while taking
a nap
and
Colorado: Hunter claims he was sexually assaulted
by a sasquatch
and
Boston: Members of Midget Crime Gang Suspected of
55 Break-ins

Your typical tabloid articles.... :)

Back in my day, the fake news pretty much
always had some basis in a fact or two,
mostly I admit blown out of proportion and/or
taken out of context and embellished in
strange ways. Also often the lurid headlines
had little to do with the much tamer story
content, which might have had some basis in fact.

True... I did happen to read a few of them, just for the jollies... and wondering if there was any slim basis of truth behind the obviously
overblown headlines...

Lilli's source was multiplehand, filtered through
a Facebook friend, but that's not a great excuse.

No, not really... Should actually make one more wary... ;)

Depends on whether one trusts one's Facebook
friends. Mine are generally bright people and
don't tend to fall for stuff (Lilli being an
exception). My best prophylaxis, though, is
not to go on Facebook, which I haven't since
last autumn, except possibly once to announce
my survival of the heart attack.

I'd only get info off Facebook from someone else, as I'm not on there at
all (to my sister's dismay)... SOW, I'm reminded that Bert sent around
a text to people he had cellphone numbers for... you may have seen it
from Dale (if he happened to check his cellphone for messages)...
Basically he was telling about them having a bottle of grapefruit wine
from the Montreal picnic in 1999... "good tasting, a clear but darkish
yellow, with no noticeable oxidation taste. It was so sweet that the
grapefruit flavor was nonexistent." He went on to say that they are
doing good and just saying Hello....

ttyl neb

... Only listen to fortune cookie; disregard all other media.

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On 04-28-18 16:25, Nancy Backus <=-
spoke to Michael Loo about Re: 630 hoo boy, various <=-

I'd only get info off Facebook from someone else, as I'm not on there
at all (to my sister's dismay)... SOW, I'm reminded that Bert sent
around a text to people he had cellphone numbers for... you may have
seen it from Dale (if he happened to check his cellphone for
messages)... Basically he was telling about them having a bottle of grapefruit wine from the Montreal picnic in 1999... "good tasting, a
clear but darkish yellow, with no noticeable oxidation taste. It was so sweet that the grapefruit flavor was nonexistent." He went on to say
that they are doing good and just saying Hello....

Since I have not had my cell phone on for several weeks, and since I
don't usually even look for text messages even then -- I did not see
that and will have to go look for it. Thanks. Glad that they are
doing good.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: DOWN EAST SEAFOOD ROLLS
Categories: Main dish, Seafood
Yield: 4 Servings

1/2 c Celery; diced
1/4 c Scallions; minced, with some
-tops
2 c Diced cooked lobster,
-scallops, crabmeat or
-shrimp
1/2 c Mayonnaise or salad dressing
2 tb Chili sauce
2 tb Fresh parsley; chopped
-(optional)
Salt, pepper to taste
4 Frankfurter rolls; partially
-split and toasted

Combine celery, scallions and seafood in a medium-sized bowl. Mix
mayonnaise, chili sauce, parsley, salt, and pepper. Add to seafood
mixture; mix well. Spoon into warm frankfurter rolls.

from The Complete International One-Dish Meal Cookbook "Cold and Hot
Sandwiches" posted by Tiffany Hall-Graham

Recipe posted by: Tiffany Hall-Graham

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Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 04-30-18 00:55 <=-

SOW, I'm reminded that Bert sent around a text to people he had
cellphone numbers for... you may have seen it from Dale (if he
happened to check his cellphone for messages)... Basically he was
telling about them having a bottle of grapefruit wine from the
Montreal picnic in 1999... "good tasting, a clear but darkish
yellow, with no noticeable oxidation taste. It was so sweet that the
grapefruit flavor was nonexistent." He went on to say that they are
doing good and just saying Hello....

Since I have not had my cell phone on for several weeks, and since I
don't usually even look for text messages even then -- I did not see
that and will have to go look for it. Thanks. Glad that they are
doing good.

I'm not particularly surprised you hadn't had the cell on... nor that
you hadn't been checking your messages... ;) But your name was on the
list of numbers/names that Burt had sent the message to... (and I
figured that had you not seen it yet, you'd see my message to MLoo, as
you did... ;) ) Now that the weather is getting better, I really should
give them a call again, and see if we can set up a lunch/dinner date... :)

ttyl neb

... We must have a pie. Stress cannot exist in the presence of a pie.

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On 05-04-18 21:13, Nancy Backus <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: 630 hoo boy, various <=-

you hadn't been checking your messages... ;) But your name was on the list of numbers/names that Burt had sent the message to... (and I
figured that had you not seen it yet, you'd see my message to MLoo, as
you did... ;) ) Now that the weather is getting better, I really
should give them a call again, and see if we can set up a lunch/dinner date... :)

I wonder if they would be able to attend a picnic held in their general vicinity? It would be nice for us to see them again.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Kakkavi, Greek Fish Chowder
Categories: Seafood, Soup, Greek
Yield: 1 servings

1/4 c Olive oil
3 md Yellow onions,
- peeled and chopped
2 Garlic cloves, chopped fine
2 lb Tomato, canned,
- peeled and chopped
4 Celery ribs, chopped
2 ts Salt
1/8 ts Cayenne pepper
1 Bay leaf
1/2 c Dry red wine
4 c Water
1 lb Whitefish, boneless filets
1/2 lb Each of any or all of :
Clams, rinsed
Mussels, scrubbed clean
Crabs
Scallops
Shrimps
Squid, cleaned and cut into
1/2 inch circles

Heat a 6 quart heavy stockpot and add the oil, onion, and garlic.
Saute until they are clear, about 5 minutes. Add the remaining
ingredients, except the seafood, and simmer, uncovered, until the
sauce is rich and full flavored, about 1/2 hour. Add the fish and
shellfish in the order given, giving each variety a moment to cook.
The clams will take longer than the the squid.

Serve in bowls with bread and a salad.
Note by Jeff Smith: in some greek communities, the kakkavi is served
with avgolemono sauce stirred in. The older dishes are plain, as
above with the exception of the tomatoes. He likes this version.

Typed by Gail/Dale Shipp, untested. NOTE: I can find no reference
to what avgolemono sauce is in the book. I believe he is saying the
the original version had no tomatoes.

The Frugal Gourmet Cooks Three Ancient Cuisines, China, Greece, Rome.
Jeff Smith, 1989.

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Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 05-06-18 02:02 <=-

you hadn't been checking your messages... ;) But your name was on the
list of numbers/names that Burt had sent the message to... (and I
figured that had you not seen it yet, you'd see my message to MLoo, as
you did... ;) ) Now that the weather is getting better, I really
should give them a call again, and see if we can set up a lunch/dinner
date... :)

I wonder if they would be able to attend a picnic held in their
general vicinity? It would be nice for us to see them again.

I'd think that likely... when I do connect, I can ask... :) My sister
was suggesting that perhaps she could let us use her house for an echo picnic... she'd be able to put up some of the group as well as having a
good kitchen for the cooking... She's been considering running a bed and breakfast there, but so far it's still well in the planning stages...
She lives in Bloomfield, so not too far from Newark exactly...

ttyl neb

... Mary had a little LAMB. The doctor was surprised.

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