Giving up on cats is far more difficult.

When someone actually manages to give up on cats,
a cat will suddenly ungive up on them.

And possibly leave a "present" in their shoes.

I guess that kind of giving can be seen as
an ungiving ... .

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.
- attributed to Yogi Berra

...or be on the lookout for the late Paul Prudhomme.

Nah. It's not a great idea to be on the lookout
for anyone late.

Just as long as it's not a vengeful ghost, coming after you for
screwing up his recipes.

Not a problem for me.

Got news for ya, dude....

Roll call! Whole wheat or white?

Pumpernickel?

Yuck. By the way, we were at Weggie's the other day
to get pumpernickel for Dale's pastrami, and there
wasn't any. About 20 kinds of rye, and I was all
set to give up gleefully and just get a loaf of
unseeded rye, but then Nancy came up with a loaf
of pumpernickel/rye swirl, so that's what came
back with us. I didn't have any of it.

One other thing about Wipi - every lunch
that I can recall was full of dairy. There
were vegetarian options with cheese and
meatarian options with cheese. Once or twice
I had to take refuge at the salad table.

Now that I'd almost pay money to see as I chowed down on the nearest
handy pile of cheese-laden whatever.

Periodically I'd ingest some cheesy substance.
Usually I gauged the pills adequately well.

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind as it were.

Enough of that, young lady.

Tornadoes are no laughing matter, especially if your name is

Dorothy.

I was reading, well, stumbling over, a news article
in 1956 and asked my father "why is anyone afraid
of a tomato?"

Speaks someone who doesn't eat vegetables unless in dire straits.
...which is about when I eat raw tomatoes.

I m not afraid of vegetables. Zucchini I fear,
but that hardly counts.

Any vegetarian Libertarians?

Many friends of mine are libertarians. Some are
vegetarians. So - yes.

Vegetarian Libertarian contrarians... we'd probably have a lot in common.

Vegetarian? I thought you had some kind of
good sense.

The contrarian part; I'm generally an omnivore.

That's a very contrarian vegetarian.

Paul Prudhomme's Black Muffins

The other Ruth might like this one too. You had me at molasses and
pecans.

I'll l let her speak up if she feels like.

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Title: Olive and Rosemary Flat Bread
Categories: Breads
Servings: 8

Stephen Ceideburg
1/2 c Brown rice flour (see note)
1 1/2 ts Granular yeast
2 ts Sugar
1 1/4 c Warm water (110 degrees F.)
4 lg Egg whites, at room
-temperature
1 tb Olive oil
12 Oil-cured black olives,
-pitted and roughly chopped
4 ts Dried rosemary, or to taste
1 Egg yolk mixed with 1/2
-teaspoon water
1 lg Garlic clove, peeled, cut in
-3 pieces
1/2 c Corn flour (see note)
1/2 c Cornstarch
2 ts Xanthan gum powder
1 To 1 1/2 teaspoons salt

Stir together 1/2 cup of the rice flour, the yeast, sugar and 1/2 cup of
the warm water in a 2-cup glass measure. Let rest in a warm place until
doubled in volume, about 10 minutes.

Line a large baking sheet with parchment paper and draw two 8 inch
circles
on it (use a cake pan as a guide).

Beat egg whites lightly, add olive oil, chopped olives and 2 teaspoons of
the rosemary; set aside.

Combine garlic and egg yolk; set aside. (Garlic will perfume the glaze
but
won't burn in the oven, as chopped garlic would.)

Combine remaining 1 cup rice flour, the corn flour, corn- starch, xanthan
gum powder and salt in bowl.

Add remaining 3/4 cup warm water to egg white-olive mixture a stir into
flour. Stir in yeast mixture and beat until smooth.

Using a rubber spatula, spread soft dough into 8-inch circles marked on
the
parchment paper heaping it up slightly in the middle. Cover loaves with
lightly greased plastic wrap and let rise until doubled in bulk, about 1
hour.

Preheat oven to 425 degrees F.

Discard garlic and brush egg glaze over loaves. Sprinkle tops with
remaining 2 teaspoons rosemary. Using a razor blade, slash tops of loaves
into a large diamond grid pattern. (Use an up-and-down cutting motion
rather than dragging the blade through the soft dough.)

Bake for 20 minutes, until well browned.

Makes two 8-inch diameter, 11-ounce loaves.

Note: Brown rice flour and corn flour may be found in some health food
stores and Rainbow Groceries.

PER SERVING (1/8 of a loaf): 115 calories, 3 g protein, 18 g
carbohydrate,
3 fat (2 g saturated), 13 mg cholesterol, 344 mg sodium, 0 g fiber,

From an article by Jacqueline Mallorca in the San Francisco Chronicle,
8/18/93.

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And possibly leave a "present" in their shoes.

I guess that kind of giving can be seen as
an ungiving ... .

Cats and hairballs can be said to generate misgivings.

...or be on the lookout for the late Paul Prudhomme.

Nah. It's not a great idea to be on the lookout
for anyone late.

Just as long as it's not a vengeful ghost, coming after you for
screwing up his recipes.

Not a problem for me.

Not a Louisiana food fan?

Got news for ya, dude....

Roll call! Whole wheat or white?

Pumpernickel?

Yuck. By the way, we were at Weggie's the other day
to get pumpernickel for Dale's pastrami, and there

You weren't raised with it. Pumpernickel bagels, toasted with cream
cheese, are wonderful things if you like pumpernickel and can eat
cream cheese.

wasn't any. About 20 kinds of rye, and I was all
set to give up gleefully and just get a loaf of
unseeded rye, but then Nancy came up with a loaf
of pumpernickel/rye swirl, so that's what came
back with us. I didn't have any of it.

All the more for them.

meatarian options with cheese. Once or twice
I had to take refuge at the salad table.

Now that I'd almost pay money to see as I chowed down on the

nearest

handy pile of cheese-laden whatever.

Periodically I'd ingest some cheesy substance.
Usually I gauged the pills adequately well.

What about the vegetables?

I was reading, well, stumbling over, a news article
in 1956 and asked my father "why is anyone afraid
of a tomato?"

Speaks someone who doesn't eat vegetables unless in dire straits.
...which is about when I eat raw tomatoes.

I m not afraid of vegetables. Zucchini I fear,
but that hardly counts.

It's more pig food than people food.

Vegetarian Libertarian contrarians... we'd probably have a

lot in

common.

Vegetarian? I thought you had some kind of
good sense.

The contrarian part; I'm generally an omnivore.

That's a very contrarian vegetarian.

...who thought of becoming a librarian.

Title: Olive and Rosemary Flat Bread
Categories: Breads
Servings: 8

Stephen Ceideburg

Now there's a name I haven't seen in a while.
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Quoting RUTH HANSCHKA to MICHAEL LOO on 13-Sep-2018 23:46 <=-

Got news for ya, dude....

Roll call! Whole wheat or white?

Pumpernickel?

Yuck. By the way, we were at Weggie's the other day
to get pumpernickel for Dale's pastrami, and there

You weren't raised with it. Pumpernickel bagels, toasted with cream cheese, are wonderful things if you like pumpernickel and can eat
cream cheese.

Sounds good to me... :) I was raised with it, too... Daddy bought all
kinds of flavors of breads, including pumpernickle... I remember a
"chant" we often did in the car on a Sunday morning driving to some
country church where Daddy was going to fill their pulpit for the day (a
loaf of bread, usually raisin, but sometimes pumpernickel being
breakfast for the family in the car)... "Jane Parker Pumpernickel bread,
No Fat Attic" (the last bit being some child's mispronounce of "Added"
which got picked up on for the chant)...

wasn't any. About 20 kinds of rye, and I was all
set to give up gleefully and just get a loaf of
unseeded rye, but then Nancy came up with a loaf
of pumpernickel/rye swirl, so that's what came
back with us. I didn't have any of it.

All the more for them.

Exactly... I don't remember if it all was eaten or not... it seemed to
be about the right amount....

ttyl neb

... Strangely strange but oddly normal.

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You weren't raised with it. Pumpernickel bagels, toasted with

cream

cheese, are wonderful things if you like pumpernickel and can

eat

cream cheese.

Sounds good to me... :) I was raised with it, too... Daddy bought

all

kinds of flavors of breads, including pumpernickle... I remember a
"chant" we often did in the car on a Sunday morning driving to some
country church where Daddy was going to fill their pulpit for the

day (a

loaf of bread, usually raisin, but sometimes pumpernickel being
breakfast for the family in the car)... "Jane Parker Pumpernickel

bread,

No Fat Attic" (the last bit being some child's mispronounce of

"Added"

which got picked up on for the chant)...

Was that an "Anne Page" brand? :-)

back with us. I didn't have any of it.

All the more for them.

Exactly... I don't remember if it all was eaten or not... it

seemed to

be about the right amount....

It does tend to vanish
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