• 578 pistachio ice cream & other substitutes

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 13:10:18
    NB > So how do they get away with calling it pistachio ice cream
    when the nuts they put in it are almonds.... That's usually
    called pistachio nut ice cream, rather than pistachio ice
    cream (which does have pistachio nuts in it)....
    If it has no pistachio at all, I've no idea.
    Maybe it's called pistachio because it's green.
    This thread got me wondering what is sold in Canada and what
    ingredients are allowed to be used. It turns out that pistachio ice
    cream here can contain pistachio nuts and/or natural and/or
    artificial flavouring,

    I've had some difficulty finding what's allowed in US
    pistachio ice cream, specifically whether there's any
    requirement of authenticity. One thing I can say is
    that many pistachio ice creams lack any kind of
    verisimilitude.

    Baskin Robbins Canada labels their ice cream Pistachio Almond and
    the fine print says "Pistachio flavoured ice cream with roasted
    almonds". The ingredient list reads: Cream, Nonfat Milk, Roasted

    Someday I'll go find a BR and test out the stuff. Lilli
    and I went past one in a mall that had an Apple Store
    she wanted to visit, so at least it's clear they still
    exist if not thrive down here.

    Almonds (Almonds, Safflower Oil or Canola Oil), Sugar, Corn Syrup,
    Whey Powder, Natural and Artificial Flavour (Derived from Barley), Stabiliser/Emulsifier Blend (Mono and Diglycerides, Cellulose Gum,
    Guar Gum, Carrageenan), Artificial Colour (Blue 1), Beta Carotene
    for Colour. So, no actual pistachios.

    Questions that arise: why whey? And what is the flavor
    derived from barley - do they seriously reckon that
    one can mistake the flavor of Postum for that of
    pistachios, or is there some other flavor intended.

    Loblaw's Black Label pistachio ice cream on the other hand does have
    nuts so no disclaimers are required. It contains just cream, milk,
    sugar, skim milk powder, frozen egg yolk, pistachio paste
    (pistachio, palm oil shortening), colour, salt.

    Ah, real. One does note that many of our better brands
    have similarly limited ingredients lists.

    While perusing labels I got a hankering for some ice cream even

    Pretty powerful, this suggestion thing.

    though it's -24 out with blowing snow and so I picked up a carton

    As has been pointed out, the coldest places
    often have the largest ice cream consumption
    - New England is particularly noteworthy in
    this way. It's an easy, tasty way of ingesting
    lots and lots of calories.

    of Breyers chocolate mint as it was on sale for $3.99 when every-
    thing else was $6.99, forgetting momentarily that I was boycotting
    them for their drop in quality after their last change of ownership.

    The ingredients list may be acceptable still,
    though the amount of overrun is truly amazing.
    I recently got some of the Breyer's lactose-free
    vanilla, which had a strong aroma of extractives
    and a decided absence of richness.

    It was pretty nasty so I checked the label. First of all they had
    downsized the 2 liter carton again from 1.75 l to 1.66 l. Then I

    Be thankful for smaller favors.

    realized that I had actually purchased a "frozen dairy dessert". The
    damned stuff isn't even legally ice cream!

    And why we haven't risen up and taken back the
    night I don't know.

    --mm
    Sesame ice cream
    cat: dessert
    yield: 1 pt

    1 pt vanilla ice cream
    1/4 c tahini
    1 Tb honey

    Soften ice cream until it is workable. Stir in
    tahini and honey until blended. Pack into freezer
    container, leaving 1/2" headroom. Cover and freeze.

    Source: Rose Dosti, Middle Eastern Cooking

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Wednesday, November 21, 2018 04:33:10
    On 11-20-18 12:10, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Jim Weller about 578 pistachio ice cream & <=-

    requirement of authenticity. One thing I can say is
    that many pistachio ice creams lack any kind of
    verisimilitude.

    I think that I have said that when I was living in Pittsburg, we
    sometimes drove out to the Howard Johnson Restaurant on the PA Turnpike
    for a dish of pistachio ice cream. I can say that it was green and that
    I *think* the nuts were pistachio.


    Baskin Robbins Canada labels their ice cream Pistachio Almond and
    the fine print says "Pistachio flavoured ice cream with roasted
    almonds". The ingredient list reads: Cream, Nonfat Milk, Roasted

    Someday I'll go find a BR and test out the stuff. Lilli
    and I went past one in a mall that had an Apple Store
    she wanted to visit, so at least it's clear they still
    exist if not thrive down here.

    There is a BR in the strip mall that contains Wong's Asean Bistro, just
    off Route 108. Next time you are here, ask and we'll go there with you.

    As has been pointed out, the coldest places
    often have the largest ice cream consumption
    - New England is particularly noteworthy in
    this way. It's an easy, tasty way of ingesting
    lots and lots of calories.

    I think that the NE reason for so many good ice cream stands is the
    frequency of local dairy farms that make it part of their business.


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    Title: Indian Stew/lenils*
    Categories: Vegetarian
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1/2 c Pink or Yellow Lentils
    1 1/2 c Diced onion
    2 Cl garlic minced
    1/2 ts Turmeric
    2 Jalapeno chilies, seeded
    - and diced
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    1 tb Grated fresh ginger root
    1/2 ts Salt or to taste
    1/4 c Vegetable oil (or butter)
    4 lg Plum tomatoes, diced
    1 md Eggplant, diced
    1 c Frozen green beans
    1 c Cauliflower florets
    2 c Carrot slices
    2 ts Garam masala (See below)
    1/4 c Fresh cilantro

    MMMMM------------------GARAM MASALA (HOME MADE-----------------------
    1/2 ts Cardamon
    1/2 ts Cinnamon
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1/4 ts Nutmeg
    1/4 ts Coriander
    1/4 ts Ground cloves

    Soak the lentils for two hours, drain, rinse and place in a four
    quart pot with one quart of water. Add the onion, garlic, turmeric,
    jalapenos, cayenne and ginger root. Bring to a boil, simmer for one
    hour. Cool and then puree in a food processor.

    Heat the vegetable oil or butter in a six quart dutch oven. Add the
    vegetables and saute for five minutes, stirring occasionally. Add the
    lentil puree and the garam masala spic, cover and simmer for 30
    minutes OR until the vegetable are very tender. Add water as
    necessary.

    Just before serving add the cilantro.

    Serve with basmatic rice with either a plain yogurt or sour cream as a
    garnish if desired.

    Washington Post Feb 4, 1998

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