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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, December 23, 2018 12:07:16
    That goes without saying, but also does the
    human urge to go for the big splash. Anyhow,
    at the spread for which I made quiche, someone
    brought a bag of Utz's sour cream and onion
    chips, which turned out to be fine, just as
    fine as before. I was somewhat gratified.
    It is reassuring when that happens... :)

    A little sigh of relief is a good thing sometimes.

    And Jim looked it up, I believe, and found that it was indeed founded by
    a Breyer...... then sold to Kraft, which was taken over by Unilever...
    With brands of that antiquity, one would
    expect founding fathers or mothers. More
    recent trademarks - Mrs. Butterworth and
    Betty Crocker, for example, are more likely
    to be fictional.
    Betty Crocker was known to be fictional when I was an adolescent just learning to cook from her Cookbook for Boys and Girls... ;)

    But the point of such (unless they're really
    outrageous to be funny, like T.G.I. Friday's
    or Chuck E. Cheese or Jim's Aloysius McGillicuddy,
    is that the people who would be swayed by such
    things would like to believe or at least imagine
    that there's a benevolent home economist housewife
    behind the products.

    With the current cultural
    mi-mi-mi tendencies, we can expect more
    real-name brands to be coming to the fore.
    No reason to doubt that Newman's Own is really Paul Newman's company,
    for example.... :)

    I have no evidence other than a few clips out of
    Hud or Exodus that there ever was a Paul Newman.

    It used to be so much better....
    So true and so sad; though it never was the
    richest of ice creams, it was at one time
    one of the most consistently flavorful and
    wholesome, with limited numbers of and
    sometimes no dubious ingredients.
    I guess other brands have taken over that distinction....

    One hopes that.

    I got Turkey Hill (also reliably flavorful and
    wholesome, though no longer so rich as formerly)
    the other day. The Colombian coffee was pretty
    decent; the fat-free sugar-free vanilla was as one
    might expect a disgrace, but what does one do when
    having diet-restricted people over for dinner?
    Serve something other than pretend ice cream....? ;) The Turkey Hill
    All Natural flavors are a bit richer, and haven't any of the extenders
    (also not the fat-free sugar-free).... :) I realise that it wouldn't do
    for the diet-restricted sorts....

    It seemed worth a try based on the name, but on
    sampling, not so.

    Documenting the oops... ;)
    Nah, the oops part will likely be excised
    before any kind of distribution.
    Oh.... it was an official recording....?
    Somewhere in between - limited distribution
    among the membership and sponsors and donors,
    possibly stocking stuffers for the local PBS
    or community station, that kind of thing.
    Ah... So still something that one would want to make as good as
    possible.... :)

    There once was such a recording where one of the
    cello ensemble parts was sour, and they excised
    the offending member, and I was called in to play
    the part on the viola and have that dubbed in. So,
    yeah, as good as possible, not as accurate as
    possible.

    Some things one /hopes/ are once in a lifetime....? ;)
    I've learned to roll with these particular
    punches, and some of the other diners were
    interesting, though hard pressed to get a
    word in edgewise.
    Not a complete loss, then.... :)

    Dessert, some kind of traditional Italian
    compote, wasn't bad.

    Yep, and they switched off, so where it was record
    heat one place I was became unseasonably cold after
    I left, to arrive just as a major northeast cold
    snap was about to end and become quite balmy for a
    while. But it's not even that the phenomena cancel,
    but rather that the trends are upward and
    accelerating since the Industrial Revolution.
    We're currently in the 40s, a bit warm for here this time of year...
    with tomorrow's high to be in the 50s... but then it turns downward
    again to more seasonable 30s....

    Today here it's supposed to be 70. Of course,
    we're flying out before that happens.

    Raised them wrong, Or perhaps right - I knew
    a guy who always thought he hated lobster, and
    his parents didn't try to disabuse him of that
    notion - it was much cheaper that way; eventually
    he figured it out, and much time was made up for.
    And by then, he was paying for his own lobster....?
    I lost touch a year or two after that earth-shaking
    event, but I presume he can pay for his own lobster
    nowadays.
    As well as any of us, I'd guess....
    I wonder that we give pets a benefit of the doubt
    that we begrudge to family members and other humans.
    We tend to give humans and family similar benefit that we give our
    cats... possibly even more... ;) Dogs perhaps not quite so much... possibly why we have cats and not dogs... (G)

    Your household may have been an exception.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.00

    Title: Aztec Pyramid Avocado Dip
    Categories: Appetizers, Dips, Fruits, Cheese/eggs, Vegetables
    Yield: 8 servings

    3 ea Avocado; * 1 1/3 oz Taco Seasoning Mix; 1
    Pkg
    2 c Sour Cream 3 c Fresh Tomatoes; Fine Chopped
    2 c Cheddar; Sharp, Shredded 1/2 c Black Olives; Sliced
    5 ea Green Onions; Sliced,Use All 2 tb Lemon Juice
    1 c Cream Cheese; Softened

    * Use 3 California Avocados (dark skinned type) that have been peeled

    LAYER 1: (Bottom) Mash the avocados and blend in the lemon juice, mixing
    well, and spread evenly in a bowl or on a serving plate to the edges of
    the
    dish. LAYER 2: Beat the cream cheese until smooth and creamy. Blend in
    the
    sour cream, mixing well, and blend in the taco seasoning, blending well.
    Spread over the avocado layer. LAYER 3: Sprinkle the cheddar cheese over
    the cream cheese mixture. LAYER 4: Distribute the tomatoes over the
    cheddar
    cheese layer. LAYER 5: Spread the green onions over the tomato layer.
    LAYER
    6: Top with the black olives. Serve at room temperature. Makes about 10
    1/2 cups of dip. SUGGESTED DIPPERS: Tortilla Chips, Bell peppers,
    Lobster,
    Jicama. Source unknown

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, December 25, 2018 15:37:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 12-23-18 11:07 <=-

    That goes without saying, but also does the
    human urge to go for the big splash. Anyhow,
    at the spread for which I made quiche, someone
    brought a bag of Utz's sour cream and onion
    chips, which turned out to be fine, just as
    fine as before. I was somewhat gratified.
    It is reassuring when that happens... :)
    A little sigh of relief is a good thing sometimes.

    Indeed. :)

    And Jim looked it up, I believe, and found that it was indeed founded
    by a Breyer... then sold to Kraft, which was taken over by Unilever...
    With brands of that antiquity, one would
    expect founding fathers or mothers. More
    recent trademarks - Mrs. Butterworth and
    Betty Crocker, for example, are more likely
    to be fictional.
    Betty Crocker was known to be fictional when I was an adolescent just learning to cook from her Cookbook for Boys and Girls... ;)
    But the point of such (unless they're really
    outrageous to be funny, like T.G.I. Friday's
    or Chuck E. Cheese or Jim's Aloysius McGillicuddy,
    is that the people who would be swayed by such
    things would like to believe or at least imagine
    that there's a benevolent home economist housewife
    behind the products.

    Ah, but many of those would believe in the outrageous ones as well...

    With the current cultural
    mi-mi-mi tendencies, we can expect more
    real-name brands to be coming to the fore.
    No reason to doubt that Newman's Own is really Paul Newman's company,
    for example.... :)
    I have no evidence other than a few clips out of
    Hud or Exodus that there ever was a Paul Newman.

    I've seen a bit more than that.... ;)

    I got Turkey Hill (also reliably flavorful and
    wholesome, though no longer so rich as formerly)
    the other day. The Colombian coffee was pretty
    decent; the fat-free sugar-free vanilla was as one
    might expect a disgrace, but what does one do when
    having diet-restricted people over for dinner?
    Serve something other than pretend ice cream....? ;) The Turkey Hill
    All Natural flavors are a bit richer, and haven't any of the extenders
    (also not the fat-free sugar-free).... :) I realise that it wouldn't do
    for the diet-restricted sorts....
    It seemed worth a try based on the name, but on
    sampling, not so.

    I guess it was worth a try... I think I did used to get that vanilla for
    MJ... and she never complained... but then she wanted her ice cream even
    if it wasn't quite real....

    Oh.... it was an official recording....?
    Somewhere in between - limited distribution
    among the membership and sponsors and donors,
    possibly stocking stuffers for the local PBS
    or community station, that kind of thing.
    Ah... So still something that one would want to make as good as possible.... :)
    There once was such a recording where one of the
    cello ensemble parts was sour, and they excised
    the offending member, and I was called in to play
    the part on the viola and have that dubbed in. So,
    yeah, as good as possible, not as accurate as
    possible.

    A bit of a mind-boggle... but I'm sure you did a creditable (although
    not credited) job... :) Apparently it was all in more of an upper cello range....?

    Some things one /hopes/ are once in a lifetime....? ;)
    I've learned to roll with these particular
    punches, and some of the other diners were
    interesting, though hard pressed to get a
    word in edgewise.
    Not a complete loss, then.... :)
    Dessert, some kind of traditional Italian
    compote, wasn't bad.

    Enough to make up for the rest....? :)

    Raised them wrong, Or perhaps right - I knew
    a guy who always thought he hated lobster, and
    his parents didn't try to disabuse him of that
    notion - it was much cheaper that way; eventually
    he figured it out, and much time was made up for.
    And by then, he was paying for his own lobster....?
    I lost touch a year or two after that earth-shaking
    event, but I presume he can pay for his own lobster
    nowadays.
    As well as any of us, I'd guess....
    I wonder that we give pets a benefit of the doubt
    that we begrudge to family members and other humans.
    We tend to give humans and family similar benefit that we give our
    cats... possibly even more... ;) Dogs perhaps not quite so much... possibly why we have cats and not dogs... (G)
    Your household may have been an exception.

    Possibly. :)

    ttyl neb

    ... A grapefruit is a lemon that had a chance and took advantage of it.

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