No, but I will be fogged out from the anesthesia and painkillers for

the > first few days.
Could be some interesting posts, then.

I probably will not even feel up to doing much the first few post op
days so don't be too surprised if you don't see anything from me. Steve

Understandable. I remember how I felt after
anesthesia. Apparently I sent some really
funny (alarming to the recipients at the
time) e-mails.

will probably post a note after I get out of surgery to update folks
here, however.

Please have him keep us posted.

You'd be surprised. There's a delicate balance
in the ecology of the echo, sort of like Conway's
game of life. You play an integral role in this.
But as it turns out there was some sort of short
blockage, and I have been intermittent (not that
I'd know how to fix anything), so traffic was in
fact down by a bit.

Plus, Marc Lewis did some tinkering with his board and forgot to get the
feed checked for here, for a few days. Steve e-mailed him, asking about
it; that got the flow going again. I thought I'd uploaded my replies

Thanks. I figure that the conference is kept
going more by users who care who can jump on
problems that it might take me a few days to
notice and that I'd be suboptimal at fixing.
The numbers on my posts give a guidance as to
whether others are receiving everything from
Doc's.

over 2 days but a minor glitch in the system made them all go out on one day--sorry for unintentionally going over the limit of 20 per day. All
is back to normal now.

No problem with the occasional unintentional
glitch. We're not in a condition where we'd
have big a problem with excess messages anyway.

Yes. One day spent finding Lilli orthopedic
help on this mostly good but at times
frustrating trip leads me to sympathize
with you even more..

Hopefully nothing serious but good thing you were around and able to
help out. We were at a quilting retreat for the last 3 days--the knee is

She just sent 5 e-mails, indicating that she's
back safe and promising to see the doc if I
see mine.

hurting more today because I was up and down from my machine to the
ironing station, then pinning rows, back to the sewing machine for a
good bit of today. Yesterday I was able to wear the brace because I was
doing a lot of cutting. Anyway, we all bring in goodies--one lady's
husband always makes a NY style cheesecake for the retreats. He did so
this time, and, as usual, it was very good. There's never any left over
at the end of the retreat. (G)

I'm presuming that people knock themselves
(or their husbands' selves) out to make good
stuff and a good impression. So you all eat
well as the result.

And of course if it's someone you care about,
there's no sense fussing about a little
imbalance now and again.

No, she does a lot for Mom and Dad so we don't fuss. She's a BSRN so
keeps us updated on medical issues they're having--hopefully no
emergency trips down to FL like we made last March when Dad had the
heart attack.

Even if there's no quid pro quo, giving a
bunch of slack to those who are important
to you is important to you.

I'm not going to consider any of them unless I have no other

choice. > ML> Good idea, and remember to bring your parachute.

And water bottle. Spirit is coming to RDU also this year.

I'm not thrilled for you.

I"m not flying them. Delta added a couple more flights, but they are to places we have no (known) need to fly in/out of, so it's not a concern
at the moment. The past few years, the airline of choice for us has been Southwest, Delta being a 2nd choice.

Relatively sensible choices, given where you
are especially.

I haven't spent much time worrying about
nutmegs, but I agree that fresh grated whole
tastes better than that weird stuff.

Which is what I was raised with. Don't know what my parents would have
done if I'd brought home a nut meg and grater for their egg nog. Never
did, but just thinking about what the reation might have been.......(G)

Someday I am going to grate a piece of maple
(or something more aromatic?) to see if wooden
nutmegs were ever a realistic possibility.

The moderator is quite liberal on that.

And if he gets out of line, I am still
flexible enough to kick him in the bottom.

As needed. (G)

I tried. Success.

Good, I presume.

Well ... .

There are pretty universal good things that
it's not a problem to tout. If you're posting
something that focuses on one religion, whether
it be Christianity, Judaism, or Islam or whatever,
that's pushing it.

I'll still keep these in the file, but not use them unless a specific
one is warranted.

What you do in other conferences is no concern
of us here.

Dad would try to pull them out with a pair of pliers but would

usually > end up taking the dog to the vet.
Some patience required, both on the part of
the surgeon and the dog.

He probably gave the dog a sedative, safer for him and the dog that way.

Most likely. I wonder about dog anesthetics
and sedatives - dosing of people is such a
finicky science, and the safe range for some
smaller pet should be even more constricted.

---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

Title: Boudin Blanc
Categories: Meats
Yield: 5 servings

2 1/2 lb Pork butt, fine ground 3 ts Quatre-epices
2 1/2 lb Chicken breast, fine ground 20 Eggs
2 tb Salt 6 tb Rice flour
3 ts White Pepper 6 c Milk

Mix flour and milk thoroughly. Avoid lumps. See recipe for
Quatre-epices Author: Jerry Predika

So you mix all this mess together (use quite a bit
more rice than in the recipe and probably fewer eggs)
and pipe it into clean sausage casings. To cook,
prick and poach as you would for any other boiled
sausage. {not in original]

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On 01-29-19 13:45, Michael Loo <=-
spoke to Ruth Haffly about 878 travel was crusty etc <=-

will probably post a note after I get out of surgery to update folks
here, however.

Please have him keep us posted.

Second that. I'd expect that for the first week you will wonder why on
earth did I get myself into this mess. The second week starts to feel
better. By the third week and beyond, it will be why didn't I do this
sooner.

over 2 days but a minor glitch in the system made them all go out on one day--sorry for unintentionally going over the limit of 20 per day. All
is back to normal now.

No problem with the occasional unintentional
glitch. We're not in a condition where we'd
have big a problem with excess messages anyway.

As the person who put that restriction in -- let me give you some
background. It was back in the day when message volume was always more
than 100 per day, and sometimes more. It was then sort of an unspoken guidance, not a "formal" rule. Then along came a couple of people who
decided to flood the echo with 40 or 50 recipes per day, many of which
were snagged off of the internet and had no attention to content, format
or readability. After a round or two with those folks, I decided it was necessary to make it a real rule in order to maintain some sense of
balance in the messages in the echo.

In the years since, the problems that caused that rule to be have gone
away. It would be up to our current moderator as to whether or not to
drop the rule back down to a suggestion, or to elimnate it entirely, or
to just ignore the occasional lapses as he is doing.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: ROAST BEEF A LA CREME
Categories: Meats, Appetizers
Yield: 16 Servings

MMMMM----------------DALLAS MORNING NEWS 3-6-91---------------------
4 lg Slices bread
1 ts Butter
3/4 c Red onion; finely chopped
3/4 c Mushrooms; finally chopped
1/4 lb Roast beef; cut in small
-cubes
1/4 c Beef broth
2 oz Light cream cheese
1/4 x Chopped lg green bell pepper
-salt and pepper to taste

Preheat oven to 350 f.. Remove bread crusts and flatten slices
with palm of hand. Cut each slice into quarters. Press bread
quarters into an ungreased, small muffin tins. Four corners of the
bread will stand up. Bake for 7 to 10 minutes.
Saute red onion and mushrooms in butter for 5 to 7 minutes. Add
roast beef and cook an additional 2 minutes over medium-high heat.
Add beef broth along with cream cheese; stir until creamy.
Spoon filling into toasted bread cups. Garnish with green pepper.
Makes 16 servings.
Per serving:
calories: 50 fat: 2 g
protein: 3 g % fat: 38%
carb: 4 g
chol: 12 mg
sodium: 200 mg

Mistyped by Elizabeth Wood.

Recipe posted by: Elizabeth Wood

MMMMM


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On 01-29-19 13:45, Michael Loo <=-
spoke to Ruth Haffly about 878 travel was crusty etc <=-

Hopefully nothing serious but good thing you were around and able to
help out. We were at a quilting retreat for the last 3 days--the knee is

She just sent 5 e-mails, indicating that she's
back safe and promising to see the doc if I
see mine.

That sounds like blackmail! Will it work?


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: EGG PANCAKE ROLLS WITH PORK FILLING
Categories: Appetizers, Meats
Yield: 8 Servings

4 Eggs
1 tb Dry sherry
Carrots, finely chopped
(for garnish)

MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
1 c (about 1/2 lb) ground pork,
Uncooked
2 md Fresh mushrooms,
Chopped fine
2 Scallions, chopped fine
(white parts separate from
The green)
2 ts Cornstarch, dissolved in
2 tb Water, cold
1/2 tb Dark soy sauce
1 tb Dry sherry
1 ts Salt
1 tb Peanut oil

MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
2 tb Oyster sauce
1 tb Light soy sauce
1 tb Plum sauce
Dash hot chili oil or
Tabasco
Sauce

In a bowl, stir the eggs with the dry sherry. In a mixing bowl,
combine all the filling ingredients, include only the white parts of
the chopped scallions (save the green parts for garnish) and stir to
blend well. In a 8-inch skillet, heat the oil lightly. Pour about a
quarter of the egg mixture to cover the bottom of the skillet. Heat
until the egg pancake has barely set, then transfer to a plate. Make
3 more pancakes. Divide the filling into 4 portions and put a
portions on each pancake. Moisten your fingers with cold water and
spread the filling mixture evenly over the surface of the pancake,
then roll up tightly, as you would a jelly roll. Seal with a little
leftover egg from the egg-beating bowl. Place the rolls on a flat
plate that will fit your steamer, and then steam them over an inch of
simmering water for 15 minutes. In a bowl, mix together the sauce
ingredients. To serve, cut the rolls into slices, cutting on the
slant. Drizzle the sauce over them and top with the scallion greens
and the carrots. Makes 6 to 8 appetizer servings.

Recipe: "Chinese Appetizers" by Verdi
Published by Irene Chalmers Cookbooks, 1981

MMMMM


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Quoting Dale Shipp to Ruth Haffly on 01-30-19 01:35 <=-

over 2 days but a minor glitch in the system made them all go out on one day--sorry for unintentionally going over the limit of 20 per day. All
is back to normal now.

As the person who put that restriction in -- let me give you some background. It was back in the day when message volume was always
more than 100 per day, and sometimes more. It was then sort of an unspoken guidance, not a "formal" rule. Then along came a couple of people who decided to flood the echo with 40 or 50 recipes per day,

(snip)

Especially after hearing the history behind the restriction it always
made reasonable sense to me... ;)

In the years since, the problems that caused that rule to be have gone away. It would be up to our current moderator as to whether or not to drop the rule back down to a suggestion, or to elimnate it entirely,
or to just ignore the occasional lapses as he is doing.

I find that 20 is about as many as I can reasonably accomplish, when I'm
behind and working on the catching up... once in a while I might have
21, but it can take all day to do that sort of messaging.... ;) If I
have more than 20 to catch up with, I'd save some for the next day....

And, with that, I think I'm finally caught up again... for the time
being... (G)

ttyl neb

... Appetisers are those little bits you eat until you lose your appetite.

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Hi Michael,

No, but I will be fogged out from the anesthesia and

painkillers for > ML> the > first few days.

Could be some interesting posts, then.

I probably will not even feel up to doing much the first few post op days so don't be too surprised if you don't see anything from me.

Steve

Understandable. I remember how I felt after
anesthesia. Apparently I sent some really
funny (alarming to the recipients at the
time) e-mails.

I've not done that, that I'm aware of. Generally I stay off the computer
for a few days to let the stuff clear my system. I will be on some pain
killers but hopefully lucid enough after the first few days to
read/respond rationally.

will probably post a note after I get out of surgery to update folks here, however.

Please have him keep us posted.

Maybe I should start making a list of those he has to notify? (G)

game of life. You play an integral role in this.
But as it turns out there was some sort of short
blockage, and I have been intermittent (not that
I'd know how to fix anything), so traffic was in
fact down by a bit.

Plus, Marc Lewis did some tinkering with his board and forgot to get

the > feed checked for here, for a few days. Steve e-mailed him,
asking about > it; that got the flow going again. I thought I'd
uploaded my replies

Thanks. I figure that the conference is kept
going more by users who care who can jump on
problems that it might take me a few days to
notice and that I'd be suboptimal at fixing.
The numbers on my posts give a guidance as to
whether others are receiving everything from
Doc's.

And the numbers are good for me, sometimes if I want to go back to check
on a previous message. Sometimes I'll need to refer back to something
discussed in more detail previously.

over 2 days but a minor glitch in the system made them all go out on

one > day--sorry for unintentionally going over the limit of 20 per
day. All > is back to normal now.

No problem with the occasional unintentional
glitch. We're not in a condition where we'd
have big a problem with excess messages anyway.

No, there were only about 50 in today's packet.

Yes. One day spent finding Lilli orthopedic
help on this mostly good but at times
frustrating trip leads me to sympathize
with you even more..

Hopefully nothing serious but good thing you were around and able to help out. We were at a quilting retreat for the last 3 days--the

knee is

She just sent 5 e-mails, indicating that she's
back safe and promising to see the doc if I
see mine.

So, will you see your doc? I saw my ortho doc yesterday, got all the pre
op work up done. He's thinking I may hike the Grand Canyon when the knee
is replaced. (G)

was > doing a lot of cutting. Anyway, we all bring in goodies--one
lady's

husband always makes a NY style cheesecake for the retreats. He did

so > this time, and, as usual, it was very good. There's never any
left over > at the end of the retreat. (G)

I'm presuming that people knock themselves
(or their husbands' selves) out to make good
stuff and a good impression. So you all eat
well as the result.

No, usually there's a lot of "junk" food. One lady does usually make a cranberry coffee cake but other than that and the cheesecake, usually
nothing special. One lady made cheese/sausage balls this time; they were
quite good. We brought in a box of assorted (small) cookies that were
popular with coffee during the day, brought home about a quarter of the
box but it's now close to gone. (G) I usually concentrate on my sewing
but do make sure to get some cheese cake at each retreat, other munchies
are less of a priority.

And of course if it's someone you care about,
there's no sense fussing about a little
imbalance now and again.

No, she does a lot for Mom and Dad so we don't fuss. She's a BSRN so keeps us updated on medical issues they're having--hopefully no emergency trips down to FL like we made last March when Dad had the heart attack.

Even if there's no quid pro quo, giving a
bunch of slack to those who are important
to you is important to you.

Quite so, and since she takes care of a lot of things for Mom and Dad,
it's not an issue for us.

I"m not flying them. Delta added a couple more flights, but they are

to > places we have no (known) need to fly in/out of, so it's not a concern > at the moment. The past few years, the airline of choice for
us has been > Southwest, Delta being a 2nd choice.

Relatively sensible choices, given where you
are especially.

We can usually get to where we need to go, even if Southwest does give "interesting" routing at times. One time, to get to LVNV, we flew from
Raleigh to Miami, then a different flight out west.

Which is what I was raised with. Don't know what my parents would

have > done if I'd brought home a nut meg and grater for their egg
nog. Never > did, but just thinking about what the reation might have been.......(G)

Someday I am going to grate a piece of maple
(or something more aromatic?) to see if wooden
nutmegs were ever a realistic possibility.

Don't know, they might have made some interesting "decor" pieces.

flexible enough to kick him in the bottom.

As needed. (G)

I tried. Success.

Good, I presume.

Well ... .

There are pretty universal good things that
it's not a problem to tout. If you're posting
something that focuses on one religion, whether
it be Christianity, Judaism, or Islam or whatever,
that's pushing it.

I'll still keep these in the file, but not use them unless a

specific > one is warranted.

What you do in other conferences is no concern
of us here.

As of now, this is the main conference I'm active in. I do get net mail
and, pointing off of Marc, do carry his area that he uses to send
notices to the points. Otherwise, nothing else; I dropped Home Cooking
and Writing a while ago. The latter had died a long time ago, just never
took it off my listing.

Some patience required, both on the part of
the surgeon and the dog.

He probably gave the dog a sedative, safer for him and the dog that

way.

Most likely. I wonder about dog anesthetics
and sedatives - dosing of people is such a
finicky science, and the safe range for some
smaller pet should be even more constricted.

I'm sure vets learned about it in med school; we never had problems with
pets and anesthesia.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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--- PPoint 3.01
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Hi Dale,

will probably post a note after I get out of surgery to update folks
here, however.

Please have him keep us posted.

Second that. I'd expect that for the first week you will wonder why
on earth did I get myself into this mess. The second week starts to
feel
better. By the third week and beyond, it will be why didn't I do this sooner.

Third week reaction won't be quite that as the knee only started
(re)bothering me last summer. I had quite a few years of being able to
ski, run after kids, hike, ride bikes, etc before it started giving me problems. From the first twinges of pain last June to my surgery date,
it's 7 months--some of the delay was caused by our previous summer committments, some by the need for insurance approval, etc. But, still,
I'll be glad when it's done.

over 2 days but a minor glitch in the system made them all go out on one day--sorry for unintentionally going over the limit of 20 per day. All
is back to normal now.

No problem with the occasional unintentional
glitch. We're not in a condition where we'd
have big a problem with excess messages anyway.

As the person who put that restriction in -- let me give you some background. It was back in the day when message volume was always
more than 100 per day, and sometimes more. It was then sort of an unspoken
guidance, not a "formal" rule. Then along came a couple of people who decided to flood the echo with 40 or 50 recipes per day, many of which were snagged off of the internet and had no attention to content,
format or readability. After a round or two with those folks, I
decided it was necessary to make it a real rule in order to maintain
some sense of
balance in the messages in the echo.

I see, it made for a lot of wasted time going thru the stuff that wasn't
worth keeping to get to the real heart of the echo.

In the years since, the problems that caused that rule to be have gone away. It would be up to our current moderator as to whether or not to drop the rule back down to a suggestion, or to elimnate it entirely,
or to just ignore the occasional lapses as he is doing.

He's doing a good job of keeping us in line. I had thought my packet had uploaded, splitting the replies over 2 days--tried to make it so but.... Anyway, hopefully it won't happen aagain. If I don't respond for a few
days post op, I'll probably spread the reading/replying out over seveal
days after that so as to break up the number of replies on any one day.

Title: ROAST BEEF A LA CREME
Categories: Meats, Appetizers
Yield: 16 Servings

MMMMM----------------DALLAS MORNING NEWS 3-6-91---------------------
4 lg Slices bread
1 ts Butter
3/4 c Red onion; finely chopped
3/4 c Mushrooms; finally chopped
1/4 lb Roast beef; cut in small
-cubes
1/4 c Beef broth
2 oz Light cream cheese
1/4 x Chopped lg green bell pepper
-salt and pepper to taste

Bump this up to larger amounts of ingredients, skip the bread and serve
it over rice or noodles as a main dish.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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--- PPoint 3.01
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On 01-31-19 19:52, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Michael Loo about 878 travel was crusty etc <=-

No problem with the occasional unintentional
glitch. We're not in a condition where we'd
have big a problem with excess messages anyway.

No, there were only about 50 in today's packet.

OTOH, in my packet yesterday there were hundreds in some selected echos.
A BBS burped a lot of usenet groups into a few echos. Fortunately, this
time it did not hit the COOKING echo.

We can usually get to where we need to go, even if Southwest does give "interesting" routing at times. One time, to get to LVNV, we flew from Raleigh to Miami, then a different flight out west.

We have learned to like Southwest because it gives us direct flights to
most places we want to go. Perhaps that is because BWI is one of their
hubs.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Chinese Tacos
Categories: Chinese, Appetizer
Yield: 50 servings

1 lb Minced cooked Pork
-OR- Chicken or Beef
1/2 c Minced celery
1/4 c Minced onion
2 tb Dried Oriental mushrooms
-(soaked, minced)
1 ds White pepper
1 tb Light soy sauce
1/2 tb Curry powder (or more)
3/4 lb Won ton wrappers
Oil; for deep frying

Combine pork, celery, onion, mushrooms, white pepper, soy sauce and
curry powder and mix well. Place 1 teaspoon filling just off center
of each won ton wrapper. Fold wrapper over filling, forming
rectangle. Pleat open edges and press to seal. Fry in deep oil heated
to 375F until golden brown.

(C) 1992 The Los Angeles Times

MMMMM


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Hi Dale,

No problem with the occasional unintentional
glitch. We're not in a condition where we'd
have big a problem with excess messages anyway.

No, there were only about 50 in today's packet.

OTOH, in my packet yesterday there were hundreds in some selected
echos. A BBS burped a lot of usenet groups into a few echos.
Fortunately, this time it did not hit the COOKING echo.

The Cooking echo is the only one that would be (and has been) affected
for me. I dropped a number of either dead or not interested in echos a
while back; now I only have 45 Points (Marc Lewis), Cooking, and
NetMail.

We can usually get to where we need to go, even if Southwest does give "interesting" routing at times. One time, to get to LVNV, we flew from Raleigh to Miami, then a different flight out west.

We have learned to like Southwest because it gives us direct flights
to most places we want to go. Perhaps that is because BWI is one of
their hubs.

Probably so; RDU is not a hub for them. But, it's convenient for us so
we use it. We've been on some Southwest flights when they pass the
snacks around, they tell you to take as many as you want. Other times
the flight attendants only give out one bag of whatever is requested.
Must be that the plane is loaded with a certain amount of snacks, extras
to be discarded before the next flight. If there aren't too many
passengers, the flight attendants are probably free to offer more
snacks. It's usually peanuts, pretzels, cookies (vanilla Oreo type) and
plane crackers (similar to animal crackers but in shape of an airplane).
My choice is usually peanuts or pretzels.

Title: Chinese Tacos
Categories: Chinese, Appetizer
Yield: 50 servings

1 lb Minced cooked Pork
-OR- Chicken or Beef
1/2 c Minced celery
1/4 c Minced onion
2 tb Dried Oriental mushrooms
-(soaked, minced)
1 ds White pepper
1 tb Light soy sauce
1/2 tb Curry powder (or more)
3/4 lb Won ton wrappers
Oil; for deep frying

Interesting, don't know if I would have given it a name like that but
they do look like a good appi-teaser type snack.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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Quoting Dale Shipp to Ruth Haffly on 02-02-19 01:53 <=-

No problem with the occasional unintentional
glitch. We're not in a condition where we'd
have big a problem with excess messages anyway.

No, there were only about 50 in today's packet.

OTOH, in my packet yesterday there were hundreds in some selected
echos. A BBS burped a lot of usenet groups into a few echos.
Fortunately, this time it did not hit the COOKING echo.

I noticed that.... STATS in particular got quite the dump... a few
others had smaller amounts dumped in them... WX_TALK, for one, and at
least one other that I d/l and read only from one of the bbses....

ttyl neb

... Any family tree produces some lemons, nuts and bad apples.

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