• 571 lingua

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 05:43:28
    months > ago; never even smelled it fermenting unless we took the lid off the crock.
    I've seldom had any that I liked - and never
    It's good, in reasonable amounts. I have to remember to rinse the salt
    from the home made. Got another batch going the other day.

    The couple tablespoons on a reuben is about
    all I can take, not too often at that. Of
    course, I have no discernible German heritage.

    that didn't give me dire aftereffects. Which
    train of thought leads me to a frequent topic
    of speculation - why do the airlines cater so
    often with gaseous foods such as cheese, cole
    slaw and other cabbages, beans, and carbonated
    Not all are affected equally. Cheese doesn't bother me, nor do small
    amounts of cabbage dishes.

    It's as if the airlines were trying to scare me
    off by the catering - anything that can be
    trusted to make me queasy or flatulent, that'll be
    sure to find its way onto my tray.

    drinks, this last of which they push furiously?
    The drinks are as an alternative to alcohol; not everybody is a water
    only alternative drinker.

    It's more the other way around - alcohol is an
    alternative to the drinks. Even with the added
    incentive of the lack of civility and comfort in
    air travel, back in coach I doubt more than 10 or
    15% of the adult passengers partake of adult
    beverages. On flights that offer it for free, the
    shuttles and the internationals, that rate might
    double, but drinkers remain in the minority.

    The average low January temperature in the city
    is -15C, and the record is -42C (-44F). I doubt
    any German, Austrian, or Swiss populated area
    comes within 5, even 10 degrees. Not to mention
    that the region was hilly, snowy, and undeveloped.
    Sounds like the Alps/Bavaria.

    Until the '90s, when some crazy installed weather
    stations in the remotest nooks and crannies of
    Germany (this was a private project), there had
    not ever been a temperature recorded in Europe that
    came close to those in New Hampshire. It supposedly
    has something to do with the wind currents,
    especially that Alberta clipper they talk about.

    The big US mountaineering expeditions used to use
    the area for training and conditioning; some
    apparently still do - Mt. Washington, an hour
    south of there, has one of the most extreme
    climates on earth, matching or exceeding the
    Himalayas and the Antarctic in ferocity.
    Fort Drum, 10th Mountain Division--nearby.

    I've seen military on the slopes up there, but
    I've not been in 20 years or more. Presumably the
    requirements for winter school don't change that
    much, though.

    Similar silly phenomenon - Freedom fries.
    Which never really took off as a name change, except with some politicians.
    Berlin, NH proudly remains Berlin. As with its
    august namesake, I enjoy the place very much.
    I've not been to that Berlin. There's also one in VT and New Berlin in
    NY.

    There are plenty of so-named places, and probably
    an equal number whose names were changed at one
    time or another. Was Waterloo, Kitchener's
    neighbor, always called that (question for Weller)?

    I would have expected a very home style cooking style at a place
    like > that--nothing fancy but good and filling.
    It was pretty good, not to my taste as good
    as mine, but way too cheesy. I doubt I
    could make a comparable meal for cheaper.
    Probably not. Speaking of meals, your "Suicide" drink I knew as a "Down
    the Line", an apt name. I think one place called it a "Garbage"; that
    rings a faint bell in my memory.

    Garbage seems to be a preoccupation among you
    upstate New Yorkers.

    I've had marinara without onions or carrots, and
    if sugar is added as a substitute, the sauce is
    too sweet and bland; if not, it's too sharp and
    tomatoey.
    I don't add sugar either and have never noticed the sauce being
    sharp or > tomatoey. Could be my taste buds, differing from yours.
    What kind of tomatoes do you use?
    Whatever's available, canned or fresh.

    For myself, I strongly prefer good-quality
    canned to what's generally available as
    so-called fresh.

    Flourless Chocolate Cake
    That's good stuff! (G)
    Indeed it is. The following might be, as well,
    plus it has no dairy in it, yeah.
    Eggplant and Beef Rollatini with Tomato Sauce
    Hmmmmmm, have to think about it when eggplant comes in season this
    summer.

    You might actually think of adding Parmesan
    (or, ugh, Romano) to that recipe, which was
    designed with Kashrut in mind.

    Japanese Curry
    categories: stews, main, ethnic, beef, poultry, dairy
    Servings: 8 to 10

    10 c beef broth
    4 lg boneless, skinless chicken breasts
    8 md carrots, coined
    2 md onions, chopped
    6 md russet potatoes OR 12 yukon golds
    - cut into bite size pieces
    2 lg Japanese sweet potatoes (they're purple!)
    6 red tomatoes, bite size pieces (more tt)
    1 hd garlic, minced (less if desired)
    2 Tb mango chutney
    1/2 ts fresh ground ginger
    1 fuji apple, grated
    - OR 2 Tb unsweetened apple sauce
    2 Tb "Oriental Curry" powder (S&B) (more tt)
    3 ts soy sauce
    4 Tb cornstarch
    2 oz smoked Gouda cheese (to 3 oz)
    2 ts buttermilk
    salt to taste

    In a skillet, brown the vegetables together
    (if they don't all fit, try browning the
    garlic with the onions, all of the potatoes
    together, then the carrots and tomatoes)

    Brown the chicken. While doing this, bring
    the broth to a near boil in a 10 qt pot.
    Depending on how big the veggies and chicken
    come out to be, you might need a bigger pot.

    When the browned ingredients are done, put
    in the broth. Stir well. Bring back to a
    near boil. In a small bowl, blend curry
    powder with cold water, enough to make into
    a smooth sauce. In a different small bowl,
    mix the cornstarch with a small amount of
    cold water, enough to make a smooth, thick
    sauce. Place curry powder in broth and stir
    in completely. Put chutney, ginger, apple,
    and soy sauce in. Stir in between each
    ingredient. Boil for about 30 min or until
    the potatoes are tender.

    Turn down heat and add cornstarch. Stir
    until thick (like your spoon is standing up
    in it). Take off heat and shred in Gouda and
    buttermilk. Add salt just before serving.
    Serve over rice.

    Jennifer, in comments on justhungry.com
    after Nitty-Gritty Cookbook (1969)
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 15:31:24
    Hi Michael,

    months > ago; never even smelled it fermenting unless we took
    the lid > ML> off the crock.
    I've seldom had any that I liked - and never
    It's good, in reasonable amounts. I have to remember to rinse the
    salt > from the home made. Got another batch going the other day.

    The couple tablespoons on a reuben is about
    all I can take, not too often at that. Of
    course, I have no discernible German heritage.

    I'll generally have not much more than that at any one time. OTOH, red
    cabbage I can usually eat more of, depending on the recipe.


    that didn't give me dire aftereffects. Which
    train of thought leads me to a frequent topic
    of speculation - why do the airlines cater so
    often with gaseous foods such as cheese, cole
    slaw and other cabbages, beans, and carbonated
    Not all are affected equally. Cheese doesn't bother me, nor do small amounts of cabbage dishes.

    It's as if the airlines were trying to scare me
    off by the catering - anything that can be
    trusted to make me queasy or flatulent, that'll be
    sure to find its way onto my tray.

    Maybe you're just more aware of such foods now.


    drinks, this last of which they push furiously?
    The drinks are as an alternative to alcohol; not everybody is a
    water > only alternative drinker.

    It's more the other way around - alcohol is an
    alternative to the drinks. Even with the added
    incentive of the lack of civility and comfort in
    air travel, back in coach I doubt more than 10 or
    15% of the adult passengers partake of adult
    beverages. On flights that offer it for free, the
    shuttles and the internationals, that rate might
    double, but drinkers remain in the minority.

    Either way, people like to have something to drink--and I've read
    "experts" that say flying is dehydrating and you do need to drink
    something. Your choice as to what it is; I usually go for bottled water, sometimes diet Coke. Used to ask for fruit juice a lot more but now I
    don't as they're higher in sugar.


    The average low January temperature in the city
    is -15C, and the record is -42C (-44F). I doubt
    any German, Austrian, or Swiss populated area
    comes within 5, even 10 degrees. Not to mention
    that the region was hilly, snowy, and undeveloped.
    Sounds like the Alps/Bavaria.

    Until the '90s, when some crazy installed weather
    stations in the remotest nooks and crannies of
    Germany (this was a private project), there had
    not ever been a temperature recorded in Europe that
    came close to those in New Hampshire. It supposedly
    has something to do with the wind currents,
    especially that Alberta clipper they talk about.

    Not surpising; I can remember some very cold temps in the Catskills.


    The big US mountaineering expeditions used to use
    the area for training and conditioning; some
    apparently still do - Mt. Washington, an hour
    south of there, has one of the most extreme
    climates on earth, matching or exceeding the
    Himalayas and the Antarctic in ferocity.
    Fort Drum, 10th Mountain Division--nearby.

    I've seen military on the slopes up there, but
    I've not been in 20 years or more. Presumably the
    requirements for winter school don't change that
    much, though.

    No, but training sites can be closed and others opened up.


    Similar silly phenomenon - Freedom fries.
    Which never really took off as a name change, except with
    some > ML> > politicians.
    Berlin, NH proudly remains Berlin. As with its
    august namesake, I enjoy the place very much.
    I've not been to that Berlin. There's also one in VT and New Berlin
    in > NY.

    There are plenty of so-named places, and probably
    an equal number whose names were changed at one
    time or another. Was Waterloo, Kitchener's
    neighbor, always called that (question for Weller)?

    Don't know but there's a Waterloo, NY in the Finger Lakes region.


    I would have expected a very home style cooking style at a
    place > ML> like > that--nothing fancy but good and filling.
    It was pretty good, not to my taste as good
    as mine, but way too cheesy. I doubt I
    could make a comparable meal for cheaper.
    Probably not. Speaking of meals, your "Suicide" drink I knew as a
    "Down > the Line", an apt name. I think one place called it a
    "Garbage"; that > rings a faint bell in my memory.

    Garbage seems to be a preoccupation among you
    upstate New Yorkers.

    I don't consider myself one any more, haven't for years. But, I can
    understand the concern of NYC trying to ship all of trash outside of the
    city. After 9/11 my brother had to supervise the re-opening of a
    landfill on LI that had been closed in May--had to make sure stuff got
    disposed of properly. I think he supervised its initial closing, IIRC.

    too sweet and bland; if not, it's too sharp and
    tomatoey.
    I don't add sugar either and have never noticed the sauce
    being > ML> sharp or > tomatoey. Could be my taste buds, differing
    from yours. > ML> What kind of tomatoes do you use?
    Whatever's available, canned or fresh.

    For myself, I strongly prefer good-quality
    canned to what's generally available as
    so-called fresh.

    Home grown fresh? We've grown our own tomatoes at various times, usually
    Roma type.


    Flourless Chocolate Cake
    That's good stuff! (G)
    Indeed it is. The following might be, as well,
    plus it has no dairy in it, yeah.
    Eggplant and Beef Rollatini with Tomato Sauce
    Hmmmmmm, have to think about it when eggplant comes in season this summer.

    You might actually think of adding Parmesan
    (or, ugh, Romano) to that recipe, which was
    designed with Kashrut in mind.

    I like both of those cheeses, so just might.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Thursday, April 12, 2018 01:08:00
    On 04-10-18 15:31, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Michael Loo about 571 lingua <=-


    Either way, people like to have something to drink--and I've read "experts" that say flying is dehydrating and you do need to drink something. Your choice as to what it is; I usually go for bottled
    water, sometimes diet Coke. Used to ask for fruit juice a lot more but
    now I don't as they're higher in sugar.

    Our choice of non-alcoholic drinks on an airplane is bloody mary mix. I
    seem to recall hearing that the various carbonated beverages actually
    help cause dehydration -- doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but that is
    what I have heard.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: SKILLET SCALLOPS AND PASTA
    Categories: Seafood
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Sea scallops, halved
    1 cl Garlic, minced
    2 tb Fresh lemon juice
    3 tb Fish or vegetable stock
    1/2 Red bell pepper, cut in
    -strips
    1/2 Green bell pepper, cut in
    -strips
    8 oz Thin slpaghetti, cooked al
    -dente
    2 c Marinara sauce (separate
    -recipe)

    Saute scallops, garlic and lemon juice in stock in a large skillet 5
    minutes. Add bell peppers. Cook, stirring, 2-3 minutes more. Add paste
    skillet; toss to combine. Add Marinara sauce; toss to combine. Serve
    hot. Makes 4 servings.

    Calories: 243 Protein: 18g Carbohydrates: 38g Fat: 1g Sodium: 205mg
    Cholesterol: 40mg

    Cooking for Good Health by Gloria Rose ISBN: 0-89529-577-6 Entered by
    Carolyn Shaw 3-95 Submitted By CAROLYN SHAW On 03-17-95

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, April 12, 2018 19:59:41
    Hi Dale,

    Either way, people like to have something to drink--and I've read "experts" that say flying is dehydrating and you do need to drink something. Your choice as to what it is; I usually go for bottled
    water, sometimes diet Coke. Used to ask for fruit juice a lot more but
    now I don't as they're higher in sugar.

    Our choice of non-alcoholic drinks on an airplane is bloody mary mix.

    Something to consider; a bit different from the usual V-8. Don't know
    when I'll be flying again tho and will have to remember it when I do.


    I seem to recall hearing that the various carbonated beverages
    actually
    help cause dehydration -- doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but that
    is what I have heard.

    I've heard that also. I think it's because caffiene can be a mild
    diuretic for some people. Makes sense then, that if you get something
    like Coke (or coffee/tea), you're getting caffine and..............


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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