You'll have reduced me to those monosyllabic grunts
if you don't watch out.

I will, if you lay off the snarls.

No deal.

Fair enough.

Being snarly feels good sometimes.

Get it out of your system then.

Humbug to you, too.

Can't tell. From the way she talked, she
just didn't like food, and what she was
doing talking to me about food (much less
cooking for me) is a mystery to this day.

A mystery not worth trying to solve, I presume.

She was very pretty - a former model and of course
on the skinny side.

Used to eating to keep her weight down.

Or refraining from doing so! Sometimes I wonder
if an eating disorder is a prerequisite for that
profession. It certainly seems to help.

But you see that happens all the time. Some
species gets the upper hand over another and
extincts the other one. We're some of the
worst culprits in this regard.

We are, but can be checked, to a certain extent.

We have to check ourselves, being on top of
the check list, er, food chain.

Don't want to ruin the chain below us.

Stewardship is a good idea though difficult
at times.

No, but there may be a trend you've just not become aware of. It may take looking at your parent's histories to help see yours better.

As if that were possible. Ah, well.

No medical records or doctors you could talk with for information?

You're thinking in modern American terms. Answer:
of course not, especially in the case of my
paranoid schizophrenic mother.

She probably sees a doctor or dentist often enough that one of them would mention it if there were a problem.

More often than I do, anyway.

So it appears there's no need to worry then.

Uhm, don't know about you, when someone collapses on
my watch, I worry.

This one was not--it was an old tree in an old neighborhood.

The tree in the Gildersleeves' yard had been truncated
(heh) from an early age so manageable for harvesting.

More so than where we lived.

We do use coriander, both ground and whole, but not cilantro.

That would be the seed, something quite different
and not as objectionable to most.

Very acceptable for us.

If you didn't tolerate coriander seed, corned
beef and pastrami would be denied you.

So best to try not to dredge them up, if possible. That's why I

avoid > the combo of pb, grape jelly and white bread. (G)
We won't inquire about the traumas behind that
fell combination.

At least I can talk about it. (G)

Unlike Clean Dave and the eels.

Too far, especially now. A bike, maybe, but again, not now.

Speaking of which, relating to another discussion,
there really is no such thing as a shank steak.

Sounds illogical anyway.

At least misleading. By whatever name, the cut is
better off with the low and slow method.

---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

Title: Kentucky Burgoo
Categories: Soups/stews, Beef
Yield: 20 servings

3 lb Ready to Cook BroilerChicken 2 lb Beef Shank Cross-cuts
12 c Water 1 tb Salt
1/4 ts Pepper 6 ea Slices Bacon
56 oz (2 cns) Tomatoes 1 c Cubed Peeled Potatoes
2 c Coarsely Chopped Carrots 1 c Chopped Onion
1 c Chopped Celery 1 c Chopped Green Pepper
2 tb Packed Dark Brown Sugar 1/4 ts Crushed Dried Red
Pepper
4 ea Whole Cloves 1 ea Clove Garlic, Minced
1 ea Bay Leaf 4 ea Ears Of Fresh Corn
32 oz (2 cns) Butter Beans 10 oz Frozen Cut Okra
2/3 c Unbleached All-purpose Flour

In 10-quart Dutch oven or stock pot combine chicken, beef cross cuts,
water, salt and pepper. Cover; cook til meat is tender, about 1 hour.
Remove chicken and beef from broth, reserving broth. Remove chicken and
beef from bones; discard skin and bones. Cube beef and chicken. Set
aside.
Cook bacon til crisp; drain, reserving drippings. Crumble bacon, set
aside. To reserved broth in Dutch oven, add cubed beef, undrained
tomatoes, potatoes, carrots, onion, celery, green pepper, sugar, red
pepper, cloves, garlic,and Bay Leaf. Cover; simmer 1 hour, stirring
often.
Remove cloves and bay leaf. With knife, make cuts down center of each
row
of corn kernels and scrape off of cobs. Add corn, cubed chicken,
undrained
beans, and okra to Dutch oven; simmer 20 minutes. Blend flour and
reserved
bacon drippings; stir into stew. Cook until stew thickens. Salt to
taste.
Garnish with parsley and serve hot with baking powder biscuits for a
great
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Hi Michael,

You'll have reduced me to those monosyllabic

grunts > ML> > ML> > ML> if you don't watch out.

I will, if you lay off the snarls.

No deal.

Fair enough.

Being snarly feels good sometimes.

Get it out of your system then.

Humbug to you, too.

If you say so. (G)

Can't tell. From the way she talked, she
just didn't like food, and what she was
doing talking to me about food (much less
cooking for me) is a mystery to this day.

A mystery not worth trying to solve, I presume.

She was very pretty - a former model and of course
on the skinny side.

Used to eating to keep her weight down.

Or refraining from doing so! Sometimes I wonder
if an eating disorder is a prerequisite for that
profession. It certainly seems to help.

Seems so--you used to have to be tall and skinny but now more
"realistically sized" models are being seen. Probably most of the not so
skinny ones still watch what they eat tho.

But you see that happens all the time. Some
species gets the upper hand over another and
extincts the other one. We're some of the
worst culprits in this regard.

We are, but can be checked, to a certain extent.

We have to check ourselves, being on top of
the check list, er, food chain.

Don't want to ruin the chain below us.

Stewardship is a good idea though difficult
at times.

Worth a try--if enough of us are even partly successful, then there will
be an impact made on the environment and eco-system.

No, but there may be a trend you've just not become aware of.

It may > ML> > take looking at your parent's histories to help see
yours better. > ML> As if that were possible. Ah, well.

No medical records or doctors you could talk with for information?

You're thinking in modern American terms. Answer:
of course not, especially in the case of my
paranoid schizophrenic mother.

Sigh! I'd have to ask my brother if he has any of my parent's medical
records. I know he has some of their medical history but detailed
records, probably not.

She probably sees a doctor or dentist often enough that one

of them > ML> > would mention it if there were a problem.

More often than I do, anyway.

So it appears there's no need to worry then.

Uhm, don't know about you, when someone collapses on
my watch, I worry.

That is time to worry but getting scurvy from inadequate Vitamin C
intake is probably not a worry.

This one was not--it was an old tree in an old neighborhood.

The tree in the Gildersleeves' yard had been truncated
(heh) from an early age so manageable for harvesting.

More so than where we lived.

We do use coriander, both ground and whole, but not cilantro.

That would be the seed, something quite different
and not as objectionable to most.

Very acceptable for us.

If you didn't tolerate coriander seed, corned
beef and pastrami would be denied you.

And other goodies.

So best to try not to dredge them up, if possible. That's why

I > ML> avoid > the combo of pb, grape jelly and white bread. (G)

We won't inquire about the traumas behind that
fell combination.

At least I can talk about it. (G)

Unlike Clean Dave and the eels.

I won't ask but if you volunteer the information..........

Too far, especially now. A bike, maybe, but again, not now.

Speaking of which, relating to another discussion,
there really is no such thing as a shank steak.

Sounds illogical anyway.

At least misleading. By whatever name, the cut is
better off with the low and slow method.

A lot of meats are, actually.

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Or refraining from doing so! Sometimes I wonder
if an eating disorder is a prerequisite for that
profession. It certainly seems to help.

Seems so--you used to have to be tall and skinny but now more "realistically sized" models are being seen. Probably most of the not
so skinny ones still watch what they eat tho.

Yesterday, we were at a concert in Lancaster entitled "Spring Doo Wop Cavalcade" with a group of 50+ folks here in Columbia that we recently
joined up with. We had never heard of any of the performers before, but
they were all from early 60's or so. Except for one young guy who was
singing with a tribute to his father, Most of them had to be almost as
old as Gail and I (or maybe more). At one point, I made the comment -- "There's a lot of Botox going across that stage". The music was decent
but we did not recognize much of it.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Tandoori Murghi Tikka - Barbecued Chicken - India
Categories: I/net, Chicken, Indian, Asian, Curry
Yield: 4 Servings

2 lb Chicken- boneless
- cut in 1/2x2" strips
1 1/4 c Milk- yogurt
1 ts Vinegar
1 tb Juice- lemon
1 ts Oil- vegetable
1/3 c Sauce- tomato/ketchup
1/2 tb Spice- paprika
2 ts Spice- coriander, ground
1/8 ts Spice- nutmeg, ground
1/8 ts Pepper- white
1/8 ts Spice- Garam masala
1/2 tb Spice- cumin, ground
1/2 ts Spice- turmeric, ground
1/2 ts Spice- chilli, ground -or-
1/2 ts Chilli- green -or-
-chopped
1 1/4 ts Salt
2 ts Ginger- green
- minced
1 ts Garlic cloves
-- minced
Butter or oil for basting
-melted
Limes
-cut in wedges -- garnish
- optional

Combine yogurt, vinegar, lemon juice, oil and mix. Add remaining
ingredients, mix. Add chicken coat thoroughly. Marinade 2-6 hours
in refrigerator. Remove chicken form marinade and fold into.
Thread on long skewers. Basting with melted butter grill or bake
until chicken is tender about 10 minutes. Picture - skewers
hanging lengthwise over 4 inch tall dish.

Recipe By : Cooking with Curry - Renu Arora
:
Per serving (excluding unknown items): 329 Calories; 8g Fat (22%
calories from fat); 56g Protein; 6g Carbohydrate; 141mg Cholesterol;
857 mg Sodium
From: Melody <mhh@ior.com>
Newsgroups: rec.food.recipes

From: Kevin Jcjd Symons Date: 06-07-99
Cooking

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Hi Dale,

Or refraining from doing so! Sometimes I wonder
if an eating disorder is a prerequisite for that
profession. It certainly seems to help.

Seems so--you used to have to be tall and skinny but now more "realistically sized" models are being seen. Probably most of the not
so skinny ones still watch what they eat tho.

Yesterday, we were at a concert in Lancaster entitled "Spring Doo Wop Cavalcade" with a group of 50+ folks here in Columbia that we recently joined up with. We had never heard of any of the performers before,
but they were all from early 60's or so. Except for one young guy who

Probably ones I'd never heard of either. Sha Na Na (with Bowser, a basso profundo) is the only group like that I can recall from my early teens.

was
singing with a tribute to his father, Most of them had to be almost as
old as Gail and I (or maybe more). At one point, I made the comment
-- "There's a lot of Botox going across that stage". The music was

Undoubtedly so. Saw a couple of weeks ago that Mick Jagger had to
postpone a concert tour because he was in the hospital with heart
issues. The news story said that he's 75--but the clips of him
strutting, bouncing, etc across the stage--he's got the stamina of a
much younger person. They didn't show a close up of his face so I
couldn't tell how much Botox he's had.

decent but we did not recognize much of it.

I know what you mean--there's a lot of stuff that I don't recognise any
more. Back when we were in AZ, our girls liked the "oldies" radio station.................I told them it's not oldies, it's what I heard
when I was their age.

Title: Tandoori Murghi Tikka - Barbecued Chicken - India
Categories: I/net, Chicken, Indian, Asian, Curry
Yield: 4 Servings

2 lb Chicken- boneless
- cut in 1/2x2" strips
1 1/4 c Milk- yogurt
1 ts Vinegar
1 tb Juice- lemon
1 ts Oil- vegetable
1/3 c Sauce- tomato/ketchup
1/2 tb Spice- paprika
2 ts Spice- coriander, ground
1/8 ts Spice- nutmeg, ground
1/8 ts Pepper- white
1/8 ts Spice- Garam masala
1/2 tb Spice- cumin, ground
1/2 ts Spice- turmeric, ground
1/2 ts Spice- chilli, ground -or-
1/2 ts Chilli- green -or-
-chopped
1 1/4 ts Salt
2 ts Ginger- green
- minced
1 ts Garlic cloves
-- minced
Butter or oil for basting
-melted
Limes
-cut in wedges -- garnish
- optional

Except for the lime, I think I've got all of those spices in my kitchen.
(G)

---
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On 04-16-19 15:44, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about 221 travel was crust <=-

Yesterday, we were at a concert in Lancaster entitled "Spring Doo Wop Cavalcade" with a group of 50+ folks here in Columbia that we recently joined up with. We had never heard of any of the performers before,
but they were all from early 60's or so. Except for one young guy who

Just to be clear -- the group is for people of age 50+ and is mostly single/divorced/widowed women. There were about 20 of the group that
went there. We saw three concerts. In addition to the DO Wap, there
was one on Jesus and one musical on Joesph and the Multi-colored coat.
We had seen the second play years before when the Teens on Stage group
our Cathy was in did it. In this version, the actors/singers were good,
but we think that the director decided to jazz it up a bit too much.
Things like one scene/song done as if in a Paris bistro.

Probably ones I'd never heard of either. Sha Na Na (with Bowser, a
basso profundo) is the only group like that I can recall from my early teens.

I know what you mean--there's a lot of stuff that I don't recognise
any more. Back when we were in AZ, our girls liked the "oldies" radio station.................I told them it's not oldies, it's what I heard when I was their age.

The music we were hearing in our early days, before and after marriage
was Elvis, Rightous Brothers, Everly Brothers, and others of that like.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Whole Wheat Flatbread (Chapati)
Categories: Bread, Indian, Vegetarian, Vegan
Yield: 14 servings

2 1/4 c Durum flour
1/2 ts Sea salt
1 tb Canola oil
2/3 c -Very warm water

Combine flours and salt in a large mixing bowl.

Mix in oil and water to form a stiff dough, adding more water if
necessary. Remove dough from bowl and knead on a lightly floured
surface until smooth, about 5 minutes.

Return dough to bowl, cover with a towel and set aside in a warm
place for one hour.

Turn dough out onto a lightly floured surface and divide into 14 equal
portions. Roll each piece into a ball and cover with a damp towel.

Heat an ungreased griddle or large frying pan over medium heat.
Working with one ball of dough at a time, flatten it, then roll into
a 6" circle, using only enough flour to keep dough from sticking.
When griddle is hot, pick up dough, shake off excess flour and place
it on a hot pan. Cook until brown spots appear, about one minute.
Flip dough over and cook on other side. (Chapati may puff up while
cooking.)

Cover and place in a warm oven while cooking remaining chapatis.

Per chapati: 64 cal, 2 g prot, 81 mg sod, 14 g carb, 0.3 g fat,
0 mg chol, 18 mg calcium

HINTS: Substitute durum flour with 1-1/2 cups whole wheat flour and 1
cup unbleached all-purpose flour.

Spread with margarine or butter after cooking to maintain moistness.

Source: Vegetarian Gourmet, Autumn 1993
Typed for you by Karen Mintzias
From: Karen Mintzias Date: 04-10-94

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Hi Dale,

On 04-16-19 15:44, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about 221 travel was crust <=-

Yesterday, we were at a concert in Lancaster entitled "Spring Doo Wop Cavalcade" with a group of 50+ folks here in Columbia that we recently joined up with. We had never heard of any of the performers before,
but they were all from early 60's or so. Except for one young guy who

Just to be clear -- the group is for people of age 50+ and is mostly single/divorced/widowed women. There were about 20 of the group that
went there. We saw three concerts. In addition to the DO Wap, there
was one on Jesus and one musical on Joesph and the Multi-colored coat.
We had seen the second play years before when the Teens on Stage group
our Cathy was in did it. In this version, the actors/singers were
good, but we think that the director decided to jazz it up a bit too
much.
Things like one scene/song done as if in a Paris bistro.

Was it Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat? I've heard of that
one, not seen it. The DO Wop one should have been a fun one, the Jesus
one, more on the serious side.

Probably ones I'd never heard of either. Sha Na Na (with Bowser, a
basso profundo) is the only group like that I can recall from my early teens.

I know what you mean--there's a lot of stuff that I don't recognise
any more. Back when we were in AZ, our girls liked the "oldies" radio station.................I told them it's not oldies, it's what I heard when I was their age.

The music we were hearing in our early days, before and after marriage
was Elvis, Rightous Brothers, Everly Brothers, and others of that
like.

All ones I would have enjoyed at the time. When I was in college, one of
my Bible professors asked (since the song was popular) if there was any significance to the name Jeremiah in the song by 3 Dog Night. IIRC,
nobody in the class thought there was anything to it.

Title: Whole Wheat Flatbread (Chapati)
Categories: Bread, Indian, Vegetarian, Vegan
Yield: 14 servings

2 1/4 c Durum flour
1/2 ts Sea salt
1 tb Canola oil
2/3 c -Very warm water

Looks to be very much like making a tortilla. (G) I used to do that a
lot, haven't done so in recent years.

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Ruth
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On 04-18-19 15:23, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about 221 travel was crust <=-

went there. We saw three concerts. In addition to the DO Wap, there
was one on Jesus and one musical on Joesph and the Multi-colored coat.
We had seen the second play years before when the Teens on Stage group

Was it Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat? I've heard of
that one, not seen it. The DO Wop one should have been a fun one, the Jesus one, more on the serious side.

JATD sounds more like the official title than the one I said above. DO
Wop was good, but not much of the music was at all familar to us.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Green Lentil Soup With Lemon
Categories: Soup, Indian, Appetizer
Yield: 8 servings

2 c Green lentils, washed
3 ts Olive oil
6 c Vegetable stock
1 Bay leaf
2 lg Onions, chopped
3 Garlic cloves, crushed
2 ts Coriander
2 ts Cumin
1/2 ts Sweet Hungarian paprika
2 lg Carrots, diced
2 tb Lemon juice, or to taste
Salt & pepper

Heat oil in pot & add lentils, stir briefly & add the onions & garlic.
Cook for 3 or 4 minutes, stirring constantly. Add the bay leaf &
spices & stir for 1 minute. Finally add the carrot. Pour in stock,
raise heat & bring to a boil. Simmer for 60 minutes until the
lentils start to puree. Remove from heat & let cool. Blend till
smooth & return to the pot. Add lemon juice & salt & pepper. If too
thick, thin with a little more stock. Serve with freshly made bread.

Rani, "Feast of India"
From: Mark Satterly Date: 05-30-94

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Dale Shipp wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

went there. We saw three concerts. In addition to the DO Wap, there
was one on Jesus and one musical on Joesph and the Multi-colored coat.
We had seen the second play years before when the Teens on Stage group

Was it Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat? I've heard of
that one, not seen it. The DO Wop one should have been a fun one, the Jesus one, more on the serious side.

JATD sounds more like the official title than the one I said above. DO Wop was good, but not much of the music was at all familar to us.

I always looked at Doo Wop as black "barber shop quartet" music. Not
that all of the performers were black by any means. But the roots were
all in 40s and 50s African-American communities across major eastern
US cities. Particularly NYC and South Philly.

Doo-wop music generally featured a tenor lead vocalist singing the
melody of the song with a trio or quartet singing background harmony.
Sometimes acapella (especially out on the street corner) and other times
with instrumental accompaniment.

The Platters and Bill Kenney & the Ink Spots were early doo woppish
groups who crossed over into pop music. According to thoughtco.com
Danny & The Juniors had the #1 doo wop song with "At The Hop". Personally
I don't view that as doo wop. My personal favourite doo wop group was
Ben E. King and the Drifters. And my favourite song of their many great
doo wop numbers "There Goes My Baby" followed by "Under The Boardwalk"

Then there were the Del-Vikings and "Come Go With Me"

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Wop Salad Mix
Categories: Vegetables, Salads, Sauces
Yield: 1 quart

1 c Chopped celery
1/2 c Chopped bell pepper
12 Chopped ripe olives
1/2 c Chopped onion
10 cl Garlic; pressed
1 lg Dill pickle; minced
1/2 ts Capers; rinsed
1 1/2 c Olive oil

Mix all ingredients, except the oil. Add oil, and mix
well. Let set in refrigerator for 4 days before using,
covered. May be used on green salad.

Makes about one quart.

RECIPE FROM: https://www.cooks.com

Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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On 04-20-19 06:19, Dave Drum <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Doo Wop was:Lancaster <=-

went there. We saw three concerts. In addition to the DO Wap, there

I always looked at Doo Wop as black "barber shop quartet" music. Not
that all of the performers were black by any means. But the roots were
all in 40s and 50s African-American communities across major eastern
US cities. Particularly NYC and South Philly.

Doo-wop music generally featured a tenor lead vocalist singing the
melody of the song with a trio or quartet singing background harmony. Sometimes acapella (especially out on the street corner) and other
times with instrumental accompaniment.

None of the performers in this group were black, but the rest of your description does fit.

The performers that appeared there were:
Scheduled to appear in our Spring Doo Wop Cavalcade are Lou Christie,
Jimmy Beaumont’s Skyliners, The Vogues, The Happenings, The Demensions,
and Bobby Wilson with a tribute to his father, Jackie Wilson.

The Platters and Bill Kenney & the Ink Spots were early doo woppish
groups who crossed over into pop music. According to thoughtco.com
Danny & The Juniors had the #1 doo wop song with "At The Hop".
Personally I don't view that as doo wop. My personal favourite doo wop group was Ben E. King and the Drifters. And my favourite song of their many great doo wop numbers "There Goes My Baby" followed by "Under The Boardwalk"
Then there were the Del-Vikings and "Come Go With Me"

Those last three songs you mention are familiar to me -- but only a very
few of the songs sung on stage were familiar. Even so, it was a good
concert.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Peas Pilau
Categories: Indian
Yield: 1 servings

2 tb Butter or ghee (clarified
-butter, doesn't burn
-easily)
1 Hot green chili or 1/2 bell
-pepper, finely chopped
1/4 c Finely chopped onion
1/2 ts Finely chopped ginger
4 Cardamon pods
4 Whole cloves
1 Stick whole cinnamon, broken
-into several pieces
-(ground spices could be
-substituted for the above)
1 c White rice
1 c Fresh (or frozen) peas
1/4 ts Turmeric powder, optional
2 1/4 c Water
1 ts Salt (optional)

Melt the butter in a large pot over a low flame. Add the pepper,
onion, ginger, and whole spices. Heat and stir continually for
several min. Add the rice and continue stirring so the rice gets
coated with the butter and spices. (I like to saute' the rice long
enough that most of it turns a dull white color and even begins to
brown a bit.) Add the peas, the water and the salt and stir. If a
yellow color is desired, add the turmeric. Bring to a boil, then
lower the heat again, cover the pot, and simmer about 20 min. until
the water has been absorbed and the rice is soft and fluffy. If you
use canned peas, drain them and add them during the last few minutes
of cooking. Serve with the whole spices left in, but warn your
guests not to chomp on them.

(You can add or substitute all manner of vegetables (diced carrots,
cauliflower, red & yellow bell peppers, etc.) and nuts (pine nuts,
pieces of cashews or almonds or pistachios) to this dish... be
imaginative!)

serves 4.

From: Jmni@midway.Uchicago.Edu Date: 05-02-94

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Hi Dale,

went there. We saw three concerts. In addition to the DO Wap, there
was one on Jesus and one musical on Joesph and the Multi-colored coat.
We had seen the second play years before when the Teens on Stage group

Was it Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat? I've heard of
that one, not seen it. The DO Wop one should have been a fun one, the Jesus one, more on the serious side.

JATD sounds more like the official title than the one I said above.
DO Wop was good, but not much of the music was at all familar to us.

Still, sounds like you had a good time overall. Any memorably good or
bad meals or was it typical tour bus buffet type meals?

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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Quoting Dale Shipp to Dave Drum <=-

went there. We saw three concerts. In addition to the DO Wap, there

Back in the 60's I went to a concert in San Antonio, I was in High School, and the star of the show was Bobby Vee. The second act was Diane Renay, a one hit wonder. The third act was some group out of England, so obscure that even the radio wouldn't play their stuff, they were named The Rolling Stones.

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On 04-20-19 14:05, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Lancaster <=-

JATD sounds more like the official title than the one I said above.
DO Wop was good, but not much of the music was at all familar to us.

Still, sounds like you had a good time overall. Any memorably good or
bad meals or was it typical tour bus buffet type meals?

We went to a highly rated Indian/Nepal place for their lunch buffet on
the day before the rest of the folks got there. It was good, but not as
good as either of the lunch buffets we go to here in Columbia. I
suspect that the high rating might be based more on their evening menu
which has Nepal items as opposed to the lunch buffet which is standard
chicken items.

Next day we went to a PA Dutch buffet, pretty good. Much better than
some of the tour bus buffet meals we had in Pigeon Ford last year.

On Friday, we went to a dinner theater show (That was Joesph) and they
did a good job. Only flaw was that they claimed to have prime rib, but
it had no pink at all and was not too tender. Other proteins were good,
and a quite good selection of desserts.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Cauliflower with Onion & Tomato
Categories: Side dish, Indian, Vegetable
Yield: 6 servings

1 md Cauliflower, broken into
-- florets
1 md Onion, chopped
1 2" piece ginger, grated
7 tb Water
5 tb Vegetable oil
6 Garlic cloves, chopped
1 ts Cumin
1 ts Coriander
2 sm Tomatoes, peeled & chopped
1/2 ts Turmeric
1/8 ts Cayenne, or to taste
1 Fresh green chili, chopped
1 tb Lemon juice
1 1/4 ts Salt
1/4 ts Garam masala

Soak cauliflower florets in water for 30 minutes & drain. Blend
ginger & onion along with 4 tb water until smooth. Set aside.

Heat oil in a skillet over medium heat until hot. Stir-fry garlic
until it turns medium brown. Put in the cauliflower florets &
stir-fry for 2 minutes. Remove the cauliflower with a slotted spoon
& put in a pot. Fry the paste from the blender for 1 minute. Add
cumin, coriander & tomatoes. Stir-fry unitl it changes colour,
reducing heat if necessary to prevent burning. Add turmeric,
cayenne, green chili, lemon juice & salt. Sprinkle with water if
necessary to prevent sticking. Turn heat to low. Return cauliflower
to skillet with whatever liquid may have collected as it drained.
Mix gently. Add 3 tb water & bring to a simmer. Cover & cook over
gentle heat for 5 to 10 minutes. The cauliflower should be just
done. Remove lid, sprinkle garam masala over the top. Stir to mix.

Madhur Jaffrey's "Indian Cooking"
From: Mark Satterly Date: 11-30-94

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Hello Dale,

22 Apr 19 01:29 at you wrote to Ruth Haffly:

Next day we went to a PA Dutch buffet, pretty good. Much better than
some of the tour bus buffet meals we had in Pigeon Ford last year.

I'm a 75 to 90 minute drive north-northeast of Pigeon Forge.

That town is a HUGE tourist trap.

I go to Sevierville every so often since I like to go to Smoky Mountain Knife shop (the biggest in the world), the enormous Tanger Outlet Mall, and the Coleman outlet store across the street from SMKS.

Having money to spend helps too. :D

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MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Cherry Joe
Categories: Abfarr, Ffbb, Dessert
Yield: 2 Servings

MMMMM---------------------------SYRUP--------------------------------
2 c Water
10 oz Sugar
1 1/2 ts Cherry flavoring
1/2 ts Food coloring, red
2 tb Vodka

MMMMM---------------------------SHAKE--------------------------------
1 qt Ice cream, vanilla,
-old-fashioned-style
1/4 c Cherry syrup
1/4 c Milk, whole

Make the syrup: In a small saucepan over medium heat, combine the
water and sugar and cook until the sugar is dissolved. Remove from
the heat and stir in the cherry flavoring, food coloring, and vodka.
Let the cherry syrup mixture cool completely before using. (This
makes about 2 1/2 cups syrup. Store leftover syrup, covered, in the
refrigerator for up to 6 months.)

Make the shake: In a blender, combine the ice cream, the cherry
syrup, and the milk. Blend until well combined. Do not overblend or
the shake will be too thin. Divide between 2 glasses and serve
immediately with straws.

From: Wiles-Smith Drugs
: Memphis, Tennessee

Recipe from: Alton Brown
: Feasting on Asphalt - The River Run
: Stewart, Tabori & Chang
: ISBN: 978-1-58479-681-7

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Later,
Sean

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Quoting Bill Swisher to Dale Shipp on 04-21-19 10:31 <=-

went there. We saw three concerts. In addition to the DO Wap, there

Back in the 60's I went to a concert in San Antonio, I was in High
School, and the star of the show was Bobby Vee. The second act was
Diane Renay, a one hit wonder. The third act was some group out of England, so obscure that even the radio wouldn't play their stuff, they were named The Rolling Stones.

How things changed in the following years.... ;) Did you enjoy them at
that first concert....?

ttyl neb

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On 04-23-19 16:41, Sean Dennis <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Lancaster <=-

Next day we went to a PA Dutch buffet, pretty good. Much better than
some of the tour bus buffet meals we had in Pigeon Ford last year.

I'm a 75 to 90 minute drive north-northeast of Pigeon Forge.

That town is a HUGE tourist trap.

You know that, we knew that -- but went anyhow. The shows we saw were
OK, sort of on the level of Amusement Park type shows or just a little
better. But hey, an up and coming actor has to start somewhere.

BTW -- any progress on catching the person who hit you?


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Cauliflower with Potatoes
Categories: Side dish, Indian, Vegetable
Yield: 4 Servings

2 md Potatoes, boiled, cooled &
-- diced
1 sm Head cauliflower, cut into
-- florets
5 tb Vegetable oil
1 ts Cumin seeds
1 ts Cumin, ground
1/2 ts Coriander
1/4 ts Turmeric
1/4 ts Cayenne
1 Green chili, chopped
1/2 ts Cumin seeds, roasted &
-- ground
1 ts Salt
Pepper, to taste

Soak cauliflower florets in water for 30 minutes. Drain & set aside.

Heat oil in a large skillet over a medium heat until hot. Add the
cumin seeds & let then sizzle for a few seconds. Add the
cauliflower, stir it about for 2 minutes. Cover, turn heat to low &
cook for 5 minutes. Add the potatoes, ground cumin, corainder,
turmeric, cayenne, chili, roasted cumin, salt & pepper. Stir gently
to mix. Cook, uncovered, over low heat for another 3 minutes.

Madhur Jaffrey's "Indian Cooking"

From: Ian Hoare Date: 08-18-96
Cooking

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Hello Dale,

24 Apr 19 02:37 at you wrote to me:

You know that, we knew that -- but went anyhow. The shows we saw were
OK, sort of on the level of Amusement Park type shows or just a little better. But hey, an up and coming actor has to start somewhere.

That is true and I'd rather deal with a tourist trap than a rotting town with an even more rotten core.

Gatlinburg isn't too bad if you go on the "off-season".

BTW -- any progress on catching the person who hit you?

No, unfortunately, not yet.

Later,
Sean

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Hi Dale,

JATD sounds more like the official title than the one I said above.
DO Wop was good, but not much of the music was at all familar to us.

Still, sounds like you had a good time overall. Any memorably good or
bad meals or was it typical tour bus buffet type meals?

We went to a highly rated Indian/Nepal place for their lunch buffet on
the day before the rest of the folks got there. It was good, but not
as good as either of the lunch buffets we go to here in Columbia. I suspect that the high rating might be based more on their evening menu which has Nepal items as opposed to the lunch buffet which is standard chicken items.

At least the tour co-ordinators had a different from the usual offering,
not just a Ryan's (do they still exsist?) or Golden Corral buffet. Give
them points for that. (G)

Next day we went to a PA Dutch buffet, pretty good. Much better than
some of the tour bus buffet meals we had in Pigeon Ford last year.

In that part of PA, it had better be good or the place would be dropped
from the tour bus route.

On Friday, we went to a dinner theater show (That was Joesph) and they
did a good job. Only flaw was that they claimed to have prime rib,
but it had no pink at all and was not too tender. Other proteins were

Not so prime rib?

good, and a quite good selection of desserts.

Including, I presume, some with chocolate? (G)


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On 04-24-19 22:36, Sean Dennis <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Pigeon Forge <=-

You know that, we knew that -- but went anyhow. The shows we saw were
OK, sort of on the level of Amusement Park type shows or just a little better. But hey, an up and coming actor has to start somewhere.

That is true and I'd rather deal with a tourist trap than a rotting
town with an even more rotten core.

Did you have some place in mind?

BTW -- any progress on catching the person who hit you?

No, unfortunately, not yet.

Do I recall that you spotted the vehicle that hit you. Was it stolen?
That would be a reason for the driver to flee the scene.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: MILD COCONUT FISH CURRY
Categories: Indian, Seafood, Main dish
Yield: 4 Servings

3 tb Sunflower oil
5 Shallots, sliced
4 Garlic cloves,chopped
1 tb Mustard seeds
1 1/2 lb Firm white fish boned
-and cubed
(the recipe recommends
-shark, dog fish, monkfish,
-John Dory, swordfish, huss)
Flour for dusting
1 ts Whole fenugreek
1 1" piece of cinnamon or
-cassia
1 ts Tamarind pulp
1 tb Turmeric
5 oz Grated creamed cocomut
-(I used a can of coconut
-milk which I substituted
-for the water)

Heat the oil and fry the shallots, garlic and mustard seeds for 1-2
mins. Dust the fish with flour and briefly seal both sides in the hot
oil. Add the rest of the spices and tamarind pulp, dissolved in
enough water ( here is where I used the coconut milk) to cover the
fish. Simmer, covered, for 20 minutes, ( omit this next step if
using the coconut milk) then stir in the grated coconut until
almalgamated into the sauce.

Submitted By EHUNT@BSC835. BSC. EDU On 3 JAN 1995

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On 04-24-19 16:48, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Lancaster <=-

We went to a highly rated Indian/Nepal place for their lunch buffet on
the day before the rest of the folks got there. It was good, but not
as good as either of the lunch buffets we go to here in Columbia. I suspect that the high rating might be based more on their evening menu which has Nepal items as opposed to the lunch buffet which is standard chicken items.

At least the tour co-ordinators had a different from the usual
offering, not just a Ryan's (do they still exsist?) or Golden Corral buffet. Give them points for that. (G)

The Indian buffet was our own choice, before the rest of them go there.
This was not really a "tour" but a group event with a coodinator for
things.

Next day we went to a PA Dutch buffet, pretty good. Much better than
some of the tour bus buffet meals we had in Pigeon Ford last year.

In that part of PA, it had better be good or the place would be
dropped from the tour bus route.

I'm pretty sure that one has been there for years. Gail and I recall
going there 10+ years before. It was quite large, seating for 2200
people. We were told that on some weekends they serve 10,000 people.
We briefly went down stairs to their gift shop which was as big as the restaurant. It would have taken several hours to see, walking at a
crisp pace.

On Friday, we went to a dinner theater show (That was Joesph) and they
did a good job. Only flaw was that they claimed to have prime rib,
but it had no pink at all and was not too tender. Other proteins were

Not so prime rib?

Exactly. We had been to that dinner theater before with this same group
and seem to think that the meal was just a bit better. I'd give it a B- because of the disappointing beef offering, but still better than some
other buffets we have been to (e.g. Pigeon Forge).

good, and a quite good selection of desserts.

Including, I presume, some with chocolate? (G)

More than one selection with chocolate. Cake, Ice cream, and I don't
recall what else.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Cardamom Kulfi Pops
Categories: Indian, Ice cream, Dessertice
Yield: 8 servings

1 1/2 qt Whole milk
1/3 c Sugar
3/4 ts Ground cardamom
8 Paper cups
-OR
-Cooking parchment
-OR
-Waxed paper
8 Ice cream sticks (opt)

In a 6-8 quart pan over high heat, stir milk, sugar, and cardamom
until simmering. Over medium-high heat, boil until reduced to 2 cups,
25-35 minutes, stirring often; slide pan partially off heat if milk
threaten to boil over. Let cool; to speed cooling, set pan in ice
water.

Set paper cups in a rimmed pan. Or, to make cones, cut 8 pieces of
parchment or waxed paper into 7-1/2" squares. Fold each piece in half
to make a triangle. With long edge toward you, bring 1 of the 45'
angles to the top of the triangle, then roll toward other angle. To
close hole at bottom, starting from the top, press 1 inside sheet to
tyhe opposite side. Tape the cone in a few places to hold it together.
Support each cone, pointed end down, in a cup slightly taller than the
cone; set cups in a rimmed pan.

Divide milk mixture among cups or cones. Freeze until kulfi is thick
but not hard, 1 to 1-1/2 hours; then, if desired, push an ice cream
stick into each container. Freeze until firm, about 2 hours longer. To
eat, peel off paper. To store, seal kjulfi (still in cups or cones) in
a parge plastic bag; freeze for up to 2 weeks.

Per serving: 144 calories; 6 grams protein; 6.1 grams fat; (3.8 grams
saturated fat); 17 grams carbohydrates; 90 milligrams sodium; 26
milligrams cholesterol.
From the files of Earl Shelsby

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Quoting Sean Dennis to Dale Shipp <=-

That town is a HUGE tourist trap.

I've never been there and it does not sound appealing and neither
does Dollywood but I bet that the Great Smoky Mountains National
Park is pretty awesome!

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Lithuanian Mushroom Soup with Bacon Bits
Categories: Lithuanian, Soups, Bacon, Mushrooms, Dairy
Yield: 10 servings

200 g (3/4 cup) bacon, finely cut
1 l (4 cups) fresh mushrooms,
Cut into medium pieces
5 Potatoes, peeled and diced
1 Onion, finely cut
2 Carrots, sliced thin
2 Garlic cloves
200 g (3/4 cup) sour cream
5 Sprigs fresh dill, chopped
5 Peppercorns
3 Bay leaves
Salt

Fry bacon and onion. Place all ingredients, except sour cream, in a
soup pot, cover with water and cook on medium heat until potatoes
and carrots are soft, for about 30 minutes. When soup is done, add
sour cream and bring to a gentle boil. Black bread goes well with
this soup.

Lithuanian National Cultural Center
From: http://www.lnkc.lt
Compiled by Birute Imbrasiene
Translated by Giedre Ambrozaitiene

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Cheers

Jim


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Hi Dale,

We went to a highly rated Indian/Nepal place for their lunch buffet on
the day before the rest of the folks got there. It was good, but not
as good as either of the lunch buffets we go to here in Columbia. I suspect that the high rating might be based more on their evening menu which has Nepal items as opposed to the lunch buffet which is standard chicken items.

At least the tour co-ordinators had a different from the usual
offering, not just a Ryan's (do they still exsist?) or Golden Corral buffet. Give them points for that. (G)

The Indian buffet was our own choice, before the rest of them go
there. This was not really a "tour" but a group event with a
coodinator for
things.

OK, reading faster than the brain comprehended again. I need to slow
down sometimes. (G)

Next day we went to a PA Dutch buffet, pretty good. Much better than
some of the tour bus buffet meals we had in Pigeon Ford last year.

In that part of PA, it had better be good or the place would be
dropped from the tour bus route.

I'm pretty sure that one has been there for years. Gail and I recall going there 10+ years before. It was quite large, seating for 2200 people. We were told that on some weekends they serve 10,000 people.

So they've got it down to a science--so many pounds of potatoes, gallons
of gravy, heads of cabbage, etc.

We briefly went down stairs to their gift shop which was as big as the restaurant. It would have taken several hours to see, walking at a
crisp pace.

I'd have probably asked where what I wanted (usually a thimble) was
located, the headed to that area. Other parts of the store would then be explored or not, depending on time and how the knee was holding up.

On Friday, we went to a dinner theater show (That was Joesph) and they
did a good job. Only flaw was that they claimed to have prime rib,
but it had no pink at all and was not too tender. Other proteins were

Not so prime rib?

Exactly. We had been to that dinner theater before with this same
group and seem to think that the meal was just a bit better. I'd give
it a B- because of the disappointing beef offering, but still better
than some
other buffets we have been to (e.g. Pigeon Forge).

We went to Chili's for dinner after church on Easter Sunday. Steve got
the chicken fjitas; I got chipotle-mango chicken. We both thought that
either the chain has slipped, our tastes have grown more or a bit of
both. That's why we like to go to non chain places a lot of the time.

good, and a quite good selection of desserts.

Including, I presume, some with chocolate? (G)

More than one selection with chocolate. Cake, Ice cream, and I don't recall what else.

OK, worth trying out some time. (G)

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Dale Shipp wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Did you have some place in mind?

No, was just rambling on about Pigeon Forge. I rarely go down there except
to go to specific stores.

Do I recall that you spotted the vehicle that hit you. Was it stolen? That would be a reason for the driver to flee the scene.

I did not see the person who hit me. Rather, I didn't know I was hit until after the air bags went off. The other victims in the accident did see him
and they told me and the police about the vehicle.

Later,
Sean


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JIM WELLER wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

I've never been there and it does not sound appealing and neither
does Dollywood but I bet that the Great Smoky Mountains National
Park is pretty awesome!

Oh yes, the park is great. This fall, I intend to drive all the way through the mountains to check out the fall foilage. :)

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Easiest-Ever Loaded Potato Soup (Betty Crocker)
Categories: Soups, Cheese/eggs, Bacon, American, Seandennis
Yield: 6 Servings

3 c Milk
1/2 t Salt
1/2 t Freshly ground pepper
1 Package (24 oz) refrigerated
Country-style mashed
Potatoes
1 c Shredded sharp Cheddar
Cheese (4 oz)
3 Slices bacon, crisply cooked
And crumbled (1/4 cup)
Sliced green onions, if
Desired

Prep time : 15 minutes
Total time: 15 minutes

1. In 3-quart saucepan, mix milk, salt, pep- per and potatoes,
breaking up potatoes with whisk or wooden spoon. Heat to boiling over
high heat; reduce heat. Simmer uncovered 4 minutes, stirring
frequently with whisk, until thoroughly heated. Remove from heat;
stir in 2/3 cup of the cheese.

2. Top individual servings with remaining 1/3 cup cheese and the
bacon; garnish with onions.

From:
http://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/easiest-ever-loaded-potato-soup

MM'd by Sean Dennis on 20 January 2017.

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Later,
Sean

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