He was, however, not so good at golf as he was
at horse racing.

I'll take your word for it... :)

He was apparently better at golf than Arnold Palmer
would have been at horse riding -

Dan Farley's Independent's obituary for Arcaro said
When he retired, Eddie Arcaro spent most of his time playing
golf, perhaps his greatest love.

And according to Reid Hanley of the Chicago Tribune,
There are several jockeys who could post up Michael Jordan
on the golf course. Swinging the whip and swinging a golf
club might have something in common. "It's amazing how good
jockeys can be," said a dead-serious Ed Oldfield of Merit
Club. "Eddie Arcaro and Bill Shoemaker were excellent
players. They had such strong hands and wrists from handling
those big horses and could hit a ball 240 yards. Their weight
transfer was amazing."

All white meat. I don't know where the dark meat went.
You'll wonder where the dark meat went when you
cook your bird with Pepsodent.

There's a non sequitor I might have used.... (G)

I was thinking what do sisters have to do with it?
but then realized I'd read "nun sequitur."

In roti canai, it can be just about any protein minced up,
so it doesn't matter; in the shrimp cakes, the chicken was
a surprise, no doubt caused by cost-cutting.

Oh, well...

In fact, in roti canai I've rarely seen any other
protein than white chicken (got to use the stuff up
somewhere); in the shrimp cakes it might have been
an advantage in some ways, because there are several
roundeye objections I've heard to the dish - too fishy,
too greasy, and too spongy. Using nice dry white chicken
would alleviate all these three as well as allowing the
restaurant to laugh all the way to the bank.

In the other dishes, the chicken
had been velveted, so it wasn't too too bad - to do this
you cut the white meat kind of irregularly and soak it in
an alkaline solution, usually egg white, then water- or
oil-blanch it to get the tenderizing reaction going.
Finally you fish it out and use it in your stir-fry or
whatever you need it for.

It's still white meat, though... Agreed that the velveting should help
some, though....

Changes the flavor (not for the better) as well as
the texture (for the better).

Thinking on it, the place I went with MG and Juanita might have had that as an offering, there were so many choices, I don't think I paid
attention to all of them.... something to look for if I end up there again.... ;)

I usually try to get a dish that, even if not
authentic, is something that the cooks will know how
to make without relying on too many sauces from a
55-gallon drum (as Nicholas used to call them). I am
suspicious of orange chicken/beef/scallops/whatever
unless I make it myself.

Dunno about this place.... might be worth one try.... don't have to
repeat the mistake if it turns out so to be... ;)

And bear in mind that Chinese Chinese stir-fries are
fairly scantily sauced unless the kitchen is trying
to correct for (i.e. hide) something.

You know how they use florets of head broccoli
arranged in a circle around your main dish?
Chinese broccoki, which is like broccoli rabe
only weedier, just plain would not do for that.
One could lay the stems in a line parallel to
the protein, though.

Yup... I can picture that... :)

One could arrange the meat or fish down the center
of the platter and do the stems on both sides.

Nowadays with the cost of veggies being what it
is, that rule could change.

Of course, meat is also getting more expensive....

Seems to me that greenery is increasing in price
at a faster rate, though.

Might be... especially in years of bad growing seasons and harvests...

It looks like we're going to have better and more
frequent harvests now.

Locally, that antagonism seems to have mellowed... Of course, I'm pretty sure that the proprietors of Seoul House belong to the Korean
Presbyterian Church in town, so that might be a factor in their
outlook... :)

You have to go to one of the countries in question
to see the full depth of the animosity.

Oh, I do understand...

Locally, too, there's the common enemy mindset.
Not that whites are the enemy, exactly, but
they're something to resist against.

No idea. Lots of other places to choose from, often ones we are heading to as we pass by... ;)

Plus you have to go to Taste of Japan several
times for each one visit to the other places.

Not quite that bad... but can be close... ;) Taste of Japan does tend
to be a default when one isn't up to making decisions... ;)

It's good to have cultivated a relationship with the chef.

I don't think I saw that so not likely Wegmans... unless they put apple
in it, which would have been an instant nope...

How about malic acid (an apple derivative)?

Not sure about that... possibly it isn't an issue, along with the apple
cider vinegar as an ingredient... High on the list, or too frequently,
I'd probably be particularly careful....

Probably harmless, as it turns out because it
apparently occurs in almost all acid fruits.

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Title: Peach Ambrosia
Categories: Desserts, Low-cal
Servings: 4

1 pk Unflavored gelatin
1/4 c Cold water
1/2 c Skim milk
2 pk Low-cal vanilla shake mix
1 ts Vanilla
6 Ice cubes
2 Medium peaches; peel,chop
1/2 c Coconut

In a saucepan, sprinklegelatin over water and let stand for 1 minute.
Stir over low heat until gelatin is dissolved. In blender, mix milk,
shake
mix, vanilla and gelatin mixture for 30 seconds at low speed, adding ice
cubes one at a time. Blend at high speed until mixture thickens.
Transfer
to a bowl and fold in peaches. Spoon into dishes and sprinklewith
coconut.
Chill for 1 hour and serve. NUTRITION INFORMATION PER SERVING:
112 CALORIES 58% CARBOHYDRATES 20% PROTEIN 22% FAT
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... What the Hell is "substitute cheddar cheese type flavor"?

It's perhaps what they'd feed a gourmet in hell or
your average citizen in heaven.

No, in heaven it would be the real thing... no inferior substitutes allowed there.... :)

Actually, in any heaven I'd try to enter there would be
general equality.

True, the real thing for everybody... status no longer being a factor anymore.... ;)

I'd be in seventh heaven if I managed to get
into even second heaven.

... Sit down, you're rocking the boat!

Yah, that looks like a nonrandom random tagline,

And as I laughed at those passengers to heaven
A great big wave came and washed me overboard
And as I sank, and I hollered, "Someone save me"
That's the moment I woke up, thank the Lord

But ... So there are the gates of Heaven, and the Pope, a lawyer,
and a minister are welcomed in, and St. Peter is driving
the shuttle bus to their new quarters and tells them to hop
in. So as they're riding to their new homes for all eternity,

That's, of course, a joke.... with a bit of truth incapsulated... (G)

I don't recommend telling religious or political jokes
as a regular practice here, but I know my own tolerances.
This variation on the last joke was told me by a clergyman:

So there are the gates of Heaven, and the Pope, a cab driver,
and a minister are welcomed in, and St. Peter is driving
the shuttle bus to their new quarters and tells them to hop
in. So St. Peter drives the Pope to his new place, and it's
a palace that makes the Taj Mahal look like small potatoes.
So off goes His Holiness, and St. Peter turns to the second
guy, saying, I understand you were a taxicab driver, right? Yeah.
And St. Peter says, here you are, and stops in front of an estate
that makes the Pope's palace look like small potatoes. And the
cabbie jumps off and goes to his new home. so the minister
thinks, wow, that goes to show how far the Catholics have fallen
since the old days, when a cabbie gets a fancier place than the
Pope. So they're driving along, and presently they stop in front
of this pleasant bucolic little cottage with a little waterfall
out back, and it's pretty in a modest way. And St. Peter says,
here's your new home, enjoy. The minister is a little taken off
guard, and he says, The Pope I understsnd. But why does that cab
driver deserve such royal treatment, and I get this (admittedly
nice
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Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 05-11-19 06:37 <=-

He was apparently better at golf than Arnold Palmer would have
been at horse riding -
Dan Farley's Independent's obituary for Arcaro said
When he retired, Eddie Arcaro spent most of his time playing
golf, perhaps his greatest love.
And according to Reid Hanley of the Chicago Tribune,
There are several jockeys who could post up Michael Jordan on the
golf course. Swinging the whip and swinging a golf club might have something in common. "It's amazing how good jockeys can be," said
a dead-serious Ed Oldfield of Merit Club. "Eddie Arcaro and Bill
Shoemaker were excellent players. They had such strong hands and
wrists from handling those big horses and could hit a ball 240
yards. Their weight transfer was amazing."

That actually makes a lot of sense... I know my hands and fingers are
stronger than they would otherwise be, due to my years of playing organ
and piano... Transfers over into being able to do deep tissue massage
well... :)

In roti canai, it can be just about any protein minced up,
so it doesn't matter; in the shrimp cakes, the chicken was
a surprise, no doubt caused by cost-cutting.

Oh, well...

In fact, in roti canai I've rarely seen any other protein
than white chicken (got to use the stuff up somewhere);

At CocoGarden, it probably is white meat chicken in the roti canai, but
the sauce makes it palatable... ;)

in the shrimp cakes it might have been an advantage in some ways,
because there are several roundeye objections I've heard to the
dish - too fishy, too greasy, and too spongy. Using nice dry
white chicken would alleviate all these three as well as allowing
the restaurant to laugh all the way to the bank.

So win-win, at least for some.... ;) I'd rather the shrimp cakes
without the chicken.... but then I'm not so much a roundeye as I
appear.... ;)

In the other dishes, the chicken had been velveted, so it wasn't
too too bad - to do this you cut the white meat kind of
irregularly and soak it in an alkaline solution, usually egg
white, then water- or oil-blanch it to get the tenderizing
reaction going. Finally you fish it out and use it in your
stir-fry or whatever you need it for.

It's still white meat, though... Agreed that the velveting should help
some, though....

Changes the flavor (not for the better) as well as
the texture (for the better).

And the flavor can be covered up....? (G)

Thinking on it, the place I went with MG and Juanita might have had
that as an offering, there were so many choices, I don't think I paid attention to all of them.... something to look for if I end up there again.... ;)

I usually try to get a dish that, even if not authentic, is
something that the cooks will know how to make without relying
on too many sauces from a 55-gallon drum (as Nicholas used to
call them). I am suspicious of orange chicken/beef/scallops/
whatever unless I make it myself.

Dunno about this place.... might be worth one try.... don't have to
repeat the mistake if it turns out so to be... ;)

And bear in mind that Chinese Chinese stir-fries are fairly
scantily sauced unless the kitchen is trying to correct for
(i.e. hide) something.

I'll do so.... :) As a matter of fact, plans are to go there for
lunch tomorrow with another friend of mine... She's had takeout from
there, never actually eaten sit-down... she lives nearby...

You know how they use florets of head broccoli arranged in a
circle around your main dish? Chinese broccoli, which is
like broccoli rabe only weedier, just plain would not do for
that. One could lay the stems in a line parallel to the
protein, though.

Yup... I can picture that... :)

One could arrange the meat or fish down the center
of the platter and do the stems on both sides.

That could work, too... :)

Nowadays with the cost of veggies being what it
is, that rule could change.

Of course, meat is also getting more expensive....

Seems to me that greenery is increasing in price
at a faster rate, though.

Might be... especially in years of bad growing seasons and harvests...

It looks like we're going to have better and more
frequent harvests now.

We shall see... So far this year I think the rain's been a deterrant to
getting the planting started...

Locally, that antagonism seems to have mellowed... Of course, I'm
pretty sure that the proprietors of Seoul House belong to the Korean Presbyterian Church in town, so that might be a factor in their outlook... :)

You have to go to one of the countries in question
to see the full depth of the animosity.

Oh, I do understand...

Locally, too, there's the common enemy mindset. Not that whites
are the enemy, exactly, but they're something to resist against.

Perhaps....

No idea. Lots of other places to choose from, often ones we are
heading to as we pass by... ;)

Plus you have to go to Taste of Japan several
times for each one visit to the other places.

Not quite that bad... but can be close... ;) Taste of Japan does tend
to be a default when one isn't up to making decisions... ;)

It's good to have cultivated a relationship with the chef.

That helps, too... We do have a rather long list of favored restaurants though... and like to get to them relatively frequently... ;)

I don't think I saw that so not likely Wegmans... unless they put
apple in it, which would have been an instant nope...

How about malic acid (an apple derivative)?

Not sure about that... possibly it isn't an issue, along with the apple cider vinegar as an ingredient... High on the list, or too frequently,
I'd probably be particularly careful....

Probably harmless, as it turns out because it
apparently occurs in almost all acid fruits.

OK, then, probably is harmless... :)

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v7.07
Title: Peach Ambrosia
Categories: Desserts, Low-cal

I don't think this is quite so harmless, though.... particularly with
skim milk, and low-cal vanilla shake mix (probably some artificial
sweetener in that)... ;)

... What the Hell is "substitute cheddar cheese type flavor"?

It's perhaps what they'd feed a gourmet in hell or
your average citizen in heaven.

No, in heaven it would be the real thing... no inferior substitutes allowed there.... :)

Actually, in any heaven I'd try to enter there would be
general equality.

True, the real thing for everybody... status no longer being a factor anymore.... ;)

I'd be in seventh heaven if I managed to get
into even second heaven.

There's a way to insure that... but talking about it is offtopic... ;)

... Sit down, you're rocking the boat!

Yah, that looks like a nonrandom random tagline,

Actually it was an oops, as it's the first one in my tagfile (came with
BW), and I hit enter before looking for a proper tag... ;) But somewhat appropriate all the same... (G)

And as I laughed at those passengers to heaven
A great big wave came and washed me overboard
And as I sank, and I hollered, "Someone save me"
That's the moment I woke up, thank the Lord

;) (F&S?)

But ... So there are the gates of Heaven, and the Pope, a lawyer,
and a minister are welcomed in, and St. Peter is driving
the shuttle bus to their new quarters and tells them to hop
in. So as they're riding to their new homes for all eternity,

That's, of course, a joke.... with a bit of truth incapsulated... (G)

I don't recommend telling religious or political jokes
as a regular practice here, but I know my own tolerances.
This variation on the last joke was told me by a clergyman:
So there are the gates of Heaven, and the Pope, a cab driver,
and a minister are welcomed in, and St. Peter is driving
the shuttle bus to their new quarters and tells them to hop
in. So St. Peter drives the Pope to his new place, and it's
a palace that makes the Taj Mahal look like small potatoes.
So off goes His Holiness, and St. Peter turns to the second
guy, saying, I understand you were a taxicab driver, right? Yeah.
And St. Peter says, here you are, and stops in front of an estate
that makes the Pope's palace look like small potatoes. And the
cabbie jumps off and goes to his new home. so the minister
thinks, wow, that goes to show how far the Catholics have fallen
since the old days, when a cabbie gets a fancier place than the
Pope. So they're driving along, and presently they stop in front
of this pleasant bucolic little cottage with a little waterfall
out back, and it's pretty in a modest way. And St. Peter says,
here's your new home, enjoy. The minister is a little taken off
guard, and he says, The Pope I understsnd. But why does that cab
driver deserve such royal treatment, and I get this (admittedly
nice)

Which is where the message ended.... I can guess at the punchline,
though.... something to do with all the people he scared straight...?
Or is it a hotel for all cabbies... (G)

ttyl neb

... Experience is a good teacher, but her fees are high.

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