I've noticed. Historic fiction is how I get the history in, with a

good > story on the side. (G)
I'll grant that with historical fiction, the
author admits that there's fiction involved.

It's usually "based on reality" tho you have to take it with a grain or
two of salt, sometimes more.

I'm suspicious, as I've said. If the writing is
really good, and the fiction part is really artful,
there ccan be damage done.

Academics are less forthcoming about that.
I started Eric Foner's Gateway to Freedom,
about the Underground Railroad, a thrilling

Worth looking into? I'd get it on my Nook most likely as that takes up
less space; just a virtual bookshelving. (G)

Maybe, from your standpoint. Public libraries may
have it.

story, and there were moments when I asked myself
why did he find that out, and that sort of
spoiled it for me.

Can't win them all.

I'm currently embroiled in a historical novel by the
Mexican writer Enrigue about the painter and rogue
Caravaggio. I'm angered and puzzled by its historical
inaccuracy (almost to the point of alternate reality).
It is too slapdash for me but also hard to put down.
It would probably be too picaresque, even pornographic,
for you.

And not chuck what you would?

I'd chuck a number of things if I could have.

I wonder what woodchuck chuck tastes like.

IIRC, I think it's a rather fatty meat.

So I hear, and it makes sense for an autumn meat.

Trochaic tetrameter, I think it's called.

A wood chuck would chuck as much wood as a wood chuck could chuck,

if a > wood chuck could chuck wood.
Doesn't scan.

But that's what I learned as a follow on to the original wood chuck
(ground hog) quote.

Still doesn't scan, though I admit that it's in
part that quality that would make it hard to say.

Sweet corn, leaf lettuce, tomatoes, carrots, beets, yellow (wax)

beans, > rhubarb and chives (which we knew as "onion grass") were the staples

when I was growing up. After I left home, Dad experimented with

brussels
That's plenty. You could lose the wax beans.

Probably so but they were a staple for Dad's garden. Only times I had
green beans as a kid were when I was eating away from home; the yellow
ones were our "standard" bean.

To me they're far inferior. Plus they're even
more inclined to squeak than the green ones
unless woefully overcooked.

pounds) and other things each fall. Enough to feed an army!

Better a quartermaster than a halfmaster.

Probably so. I know my youngest sister would take canned goods home with
her whenever she came to visit my folks. I think that was part of the
reason Dad put so much in the garden for a while.

Bringing the laundry and taking away food, eh.

Hemmingford.

Our first picnic was in 2007 at the Shipp's--the year after we moved to
GA from HI.

It would be sort of off topic but not so that it
would be moderatable. If you hadn't noticed,
quilting and music are not on topic either.

True, but thought that medicinal use of suchlike was not to be discussed.

You get to self-police. I am disinclined to fuss.
A quick reminder if you open yourself to snide
commentary .

Sounds fair. As of yesterdy, the orders are to discontinue the honey.
The hole still has some filling to do but it will come, in time.

I suppose it's unnecessary now? So
eat the rest of it. [g]

Lilli won a t-shirt for answering a trivia question
on our trip to the DMZ (which got us to set foot over the
border to the North at the treaty house).

I don't think Steve ever got up there while he was stationed in Korea.
He was in Yong San, just outside of Seoul, but did do some travel within
the country.

I'm guessing that servicepeople would be actively
discouraged if not forbidden from going up there
unless on orders. We went with Koridoor, which used
to be run by the Army but now is merely run in
cooperation with it.

You learn by example - the chicks see their mother
devoured by the fox, and then they go off and do it
themselves when they've grown up. As I said, I don't
give wisdom much credit.

Depends on who/what showing what sort of wisdom.

Who's to be arbiter? I don't trust any of it.

Probably not worth the time and effort.

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Title: Nier Beurre (Channel Islands Fruit Butter)
Categories: Fruits, Misc
Servings: 1

2 lb Dessert apples
1 lb Cooking apples
Granulated sugar
2 pt Dry cider
1/2 Orange
1/2 Lemon
Ground cinnamon & allspice

Fast boil the cider until reduced by half. Peel, core and slice HALF of
each sort of apple; add them to the pan, pushing them well down into the
liquid. Half-cover the pan and simmer gently until the fruit is soft.

Add the remaining apples, prepared in the same way, together with the
juice and zest of the citrus fruits. Half-cover the pan and continue
simmering until all the fruit is well reduced, pulpy and tender. Stir
occasionally and crush the fruit down into the pan with a potato masher
as
it cooks. Measure the pulp and process it to a puree if it is at all
lumpy. Add sugar at the rate of 10 oz for every pint of apple pulp, and
stir in about 1 teaspoon ground allspice.

Simmer, stirring frequently, until most of the moisture has been
driven off. The readiness of a fruit butter is judged by its
consistency,
not by set or temperature. It is ready when it is nearly dry - a spoon
drawn across the mixture should leave its own impression. Pot in small,
clean, warm jars and store in a very cold larder or fridge. Once jar is
opened, the contents should be eaten up within 3 or 4 days. Makes enough
to fill 4 or 5 small jars.

Source: Philippa Davenport in "Country Living" (British), March 1989.
Typed for you by Karen Mintzias

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Hi Michael,

I'll grant that with historical fiction, the
author admits that there's fiction involved.

It's usually "based on reality" tho you have to take it with a grain

or > two of salt, sometimes more.

I'm suspicious, as I've said. If the writing is
really good, and the fiction part is really artful,
there ccan be damage done.

Yes so you need to be able to search out facts of the era and people to
know what's true, what's fiction.

Academics are less forthcoming about that.
I started Eric Foner's Gateway to Freedom,
about the Underground Railroad, a thrilling

Worth looking into? I'd get it on my Nook most likely as that takes

up > less space; just a virtual bookshelving. (G)

Maybe, from your standpoint. Public libraries may
have it.

I haven't been to them in a while. Maybe I need to get back into the
habit of going to one; WF has a decent library.

story, and there were moments when I asked myself
why did he find that out, and that sort of
spoiled it for me.

Can't win them all.

I'm currently embroiled in a historical novel by the
Mexican writer Enrigue about the painter and rogue
Caravaggio. I'm angered and puzzled by its historical
inaccuracy (almost to the point of alternate reality).
It is too slapdash for me but also hard to put down.
It would probably be too picaresque, even pornographic,
for you.

Depends, but I've got enough reading to keep me busy for a while. Now
that the knee is improving, I'll not be reading as much but doing more
of other things. Working in the kitchen for one, also at the sewing
machine.

And not chuck what you would?

I'd chuck a number of things if I could have.

I wonder what woodchuck chuck tastes like.

IIRC, I think it's a rather fatty meat.

So I hear, and it makes sense for an autumn meat.

Catch 'em before they hibernate.

Trochaic tetrameter, I think it's called.

A wood chuck would chuck as much wood as a wood chuck could

chuck, > ML> if a > wood chuck could chuck wood.

Doesn't scan.

But that's what I learned as a follow on to the original wood chuck (ground hog) quote.

Still doesn't scan, though I admit that it's in
part that quality that would make it hard to say.

So we'll chuck the whole thread.

Sweet corn, leaf lettuce, tomatoes, carrots, beets, yellow

(wax) > ML> beans, > rhubarb and chives (which we knew as "onion
grass") were the > ML> staples

when I was growing up. After I left home, Dad experimented

with > ML> brussels

That's plenty. You could lose the wax beans.

Probably so but they were a staple for Dad's garden. Only times I

had > green beans as a kid were when I was eating away from home; the yellow > ones were our "standard" bean.

To me they're far inferior. Plus they're even
more inclined to squeak than the green ones
unless woefully overcooked.

So what's wrong with squeaky beans?

pounds) and other things each fall. Enough to feed an army!

Better a quartermaster than a halfmaster.

Probably so. I know my youngest sister would take canned goods home

with > her whenever she came to visit my folks. I think that was part
of the > reason Dad put so much in the garden for a while.

Bringing the laundry and taking away food, eh.

No laundry, but yes to the food take away.

Hemmingford.

Our first picnic was in 2007 at the Shipp's--the year after we moved

to > GA from HI.

It would be sort of off topic but not so that it
would be moderatable. If you hadn't noticed,
quilting and music are not on topic either.

True, but thought that medicinal use of suchlike was not to

be > ML> > discussed.

You get to self-police. I am disinclined to fuss.
A quick reminder if you open yourself to snide
commentary .

Sounds fair. As of yesterdy, the orders are to discontinue the

honey. > The hole still has some filling to do but it will come, in
time.

I suppose it's unnecessary now? So
eat the rest of it. [g]

Not needed as it can't get to the area (internal) to fill in better. No,
I'm not going to eat the rest but save it for medical emergencies.

on our trip to the DMZ (which got us to set foot over the
border to the North at the treaty house).

I don't think Steve ever got up there while he was stationed in

Korea. > He was in Yong San, just outside of Seoul, but did do some
travel within > the country.

I'm guessing that servicepeople would be actively
discouraged if not forbidden from going up there
unless on orders. We went with Koridoor, which used
to be run by the Army but now is merely run in
cooperation with it.

Correct, had to be on orders, on special assignemnt or other authorised
travel. A unit might be able to have a special tour set up but those
wouldn't, most likely, include family members.

Title: Nier Beurre (Channel Islands Fruit Butter)
Categories: Fruits, Misc
Servings: 1

Looks good, might consider swapping out honey for the sugar.

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Hi Michael,

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consistency,
not by set or temperature. It is ready when it is nearly dry - a
spoon drawn across the mixture should leave its own impression. Pot
in small, clean, warm jars and store in a very cold larder or
fridge. Once jar is opened, the contents should be eaten up within
3 or 4 days. Makes enough to fill 4 or 5 small jars.

Might have to try it. I've made apple butter, peach butter and sweet
potato butter at various times so a mixed fruit one sounds just as good.


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