• Re: 756 Timmy's was Yang'

    From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, May 21, 2018 18:46:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 05-19-18 11:18 <=-

    The Canadian division which was still making money was sold off
    to Quebec based Metro Stores long ago and their Ontario stores
    rebranded as Metro while A&P in the USA folded completely
    (bankruptcy) a few years later.
    Somewhat sad...
    Maybe, but it's a hard knock life, and when a
    company rests on its bay leaves, kaboom is
    almost inevitable.

    Still a sad thing, though...

    A&P was a leader and an innovator in the early days and became the number one grocery chain in North America but then they rested on
    their laurels and stagnated while others got bigger and and better.
    A familiar pattern...
    One that would be okay if more of the
    enterprises focused on the better part.

    True...

    Do the Metro stores still exist...?
    Yes. It's one of the Big 3 in Canada.
    So at least the ghost of A&P still remains... ;)
    Pretty much only in the persistence of
    the 8 O'Clock brand.

    Now available at BJ's... (Just saw a coupon for it there) I do
    remember Daddy getting that regularly at A&P.... :)

    Sounds like a different marketing climate in Canada... :)
    Yep. And it's hard to identify exactly what that difference is. The unanswered multi billion dollar question is why does Tim Horton's
    beat Dunkin Doughnuts here but vice versa in the US when their
    products are so similar? Or why the Bay thrives when Sears fails?
    And why did Canadian shoppers reject Target?
    Probably something that seems minor, but makes a bigger difference than
    one would think... Interestingly (as I may have mentioned before) Tim Horton's is pretty big here in Rochester... I'd guess that there are
    easily as many Tim Horton's as there are Dunkin Donuts around here, and
    they seem to be flourishing.... except for one that was recently built
    on the site of what once was one of our favorite places, Yangs... They bought the property, tore down the old restaurant building, put up a brand-new building... and were open for all of one day... We are still scratching our heads over that one... That smacks of behind the scenes problems, not necessarily related to the chain itself... The building
    still stands there, with the Grand Opening sign torn down, but otherwise
    as it was...
    The reason why I posted this - chain doughnuts
    are pretty interchangeable, except for Krispy
    Kreme, which might be marginally better when
    hot and fresh but become wretched when old and
    cold - I suspect the issue is the grease used.

    And the one Krispy Kreme in our area came with great fanfare (and
    rejoicing, in some circles)... and a few years later, faded away... I
    was unimpressed by them, even hot and fresh....

    I didn't see a substantial difference between
    Dunkin and Tim Horton's, though I might have a
    regional-based prejudice in favor of the former
    (and the fact that a friend's father was the
    inventor of the Munchkin (prior to his intervention,
    the punched-out dough balls were worked back into
    the mass, and when that became economically
    unfeasible, discarded altogether - he made a profit
    center out of an annoyance and liability).

    I remember a donut shop near where we lived in Willow Grove that sold
    donut holes as well as their donuts... I don't remember any cutesy
    names, just called them donut holes... Probably not part of a chain...
    this would have been somewhere 1959-65... We'd go down there and buy a
    few holes for a snack...

    ttyl neb

    ... The only one who gets things done by Friday is Robinson Crusoe.

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