From: al@TRMB.remove-m1y-this

To: Digital Man
Hello Digital Man,

Binkit is placing inbound files from secure sessions in my unsecure inbound. This is not a problem for sbbsecho it still tosses mail as expected but I thought you might like to know what I am seeing here.

Here is a snippit of my /var/log/messages

Mar 5 02:19:13 trmb synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP connection accepted from: 67.6 1.21.181 port 54782
Mar 5 02:19:13 trmb synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got inbound call from 67.61.21 .181:54782
Mar 5 02:19:13 trmb synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Inbound session for: 21:4/100@ fsxnet
Mar 5 02:19:13 trmb synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Moving '/sbbs/temp/0000fffa.mo d' to '/sbbs/fido/inbound/0000fffa.mod'.
Mar 5 02:19:14 trmb synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP service thread terminated (0 c lients remain, 0 total, 1 served)

And this is from /var/log/syslog

Mar 5 02:19:13 trmb synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP CRAM-MD5 of password does not match
Mar 5 02:19:13 trmb synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Non-secure session type: 'non- secure'

The sysop at 21:4/100 tells me that we do have a secure session when I poll with binkit and all is well at his end. I just don't seem to be able to send to my point, 21:4/106.1.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-10mz-this

To: Al
Re: binkit secure session
By: Al to Digital Man on Mon Mar 05 2018 01:53 pm

Re: binkit secure session
By: Digital Man to Al on Mon Mar 05 2018 10:30 am

Enable debug log level output and paste a complete session here (remove passwords, if any) and I'll see if I can get Deuce to come take a look.

In my sbbs.ini I have changed my loglevel to debugging so I'll see if I can get better info. I have one last log snippet from BINKPOLL with debug logging.

Deuce may be able to help more than I and he's not active in DOVE-Net right now, so you might have a better chance of getting support in #synchronet at irc.synchro.net.

I did pick up an inbound when that poll ran and it was placed in my secure inbound so that makes me think the BINKP service thinks the session is insecure but the BINKPOLL event does see the session as secure and I don't see any mention of CRAM-MD5 of password does not match in syslog for this time frame.

I had a similar problem, but the reverse (incoming were considered secure, but outbound, to the same link, were considered insecure). But that problem's been fixed.

Mar 5 06:20:45 trmb synchronet: evnt Running timed event: BINKPOLL
Mar 5 06:20:45 trmb synchronet: evnt Running outbound
Mar 5 06:20:45 trmb synchronet: evnt Attempting poll for node 1:153/7715@fidon et
Mar 5 06:20:45 trmb synchronet: evnt Callout to 1:153/7715@fidonet started. Mar 5 06:20:46 trmb synchronet: evnt Attempting poll for node 11:1/100@wwivftn Mar 5 06:20:46 trmb synchronet: evnt Callout to 11:1/100@wwivftn started.
Mar 5 06:20:47 trmb synchronet: evnt Will encrypt session.
Mar 5 06:20:47 trmb synchronet: evnt Initializing crypt keys.
Mar 5 06:20:47 trmb synchronet: evnt Remote disconnected
Mar 5 06:20:47 trmb synchronet: evnt Attempting poll for node 21:4/100@fsxnet Mar 5 06:20:47 trmb synchronet: evnt Callout to 21:4/100@fsxnet started.
Mar 5 06:20:49 trmb synchronet: evnt Lock on /sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00000001. pnt/0004006a.bsy failed.

Dos that .bsy file already exist? What are its contents? Maybe try deleting it?

Mar 5 06:20:49 trmb synchronet: evnt Attempting poll for node 44:100/0@dorenet Mar 5 06:20:49 trmb synchronet: evnt Callout to 44:100/0@dorenet started.
Mar 5 06:20:50 trmb synchronet: evnt Moving '/sbbs/temp/event/ff6a0000.mo3' to
'/sbbs/fido/sec.in/ff6a0000.mo3'.
Mar 5 06:20:50 trmb synchronet: evnt Attempting poll for node 316:36/1@whispne t
Mar 5 06:20:50 trmb synchronet: evnt Callout to 316:36/1@whispnet started. Mar 5 06:21:03 trmb synchronet: evnt Connection to vintagebbsing.com:24554 fai led.

So the debug log detail for the non-working case (service/incoming BINKP) should help.

digital man

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-19t-this

To: Al
Re: binkit secure session
By: Al to Digital Man on Mon Mar 05 2018 01:53 pm

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From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-k24-this

To: Al

On 2018 Mar 06 04:14:56, you wrote to Digital Man:

/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00000001.pnt/0004006a.bsy failed.

Dos that .bsy file already exist? What are its contents? Maybe try
deleting it?

No, there is only 00000001.clo and the listed .pkt files in there. I wonder if that .bsy file should be 00000001.bsy?

is it sending mail directly to the point in question or is it sending netmail routed through the points BOSS node?

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From: al@TRMB.remove-bgn-this

To: Digital Man
Re: binkit secure session
By: Digital Man to Al on Mon Mar 05 2018 03:32 pm

Deuce may be able to help more than I and he's not active in DOVE-Net right now, so you might have a better chance of getting support in #synchronet at irc.synchro.net.

I have never been an IRC person. Used it once around 1998! I've read that the chat section can be modified to connect to irc.synchro.net but haven't done that yet. It just went to the top of my todo list so I will try to catch Deuce there.

/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00000001. pnt/0004006a.bsy failed.

Dos that .bsy file already exist? What are its contents? Maybe try deleting it?

No, there is only 00000001.clo and the listed .pkt files in there. I wonder if that .bsy file should be 00000001.bsy?

So the debug log detail for the non-working case (service/incoming BINKP) should help.

I think that was debug logging. In my sbbs.ini I have LogLevel=Debugging, or are there other steps I can take to increase the amount of logging?

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-6hd-this

To: Al
Re: binkit secure session
By: Al to Digital Man on Tue Mar 06 2018 04:14 am

Re: binkit secure session
By: Digital Man to Al on Mon Mar 05 2018 03:32 pm

Deuce may be able to help more than I and he's not active in DOVE-Net right now, so you might have a better chance of getting support in #synchronet at irc.synchro.net.

I have never been an IRC person. Used it once around 1998! I've read that the chat section can be modified to connect to irc.synchro.net but haven't done that yet. It just went to the top of my todo list so I will try to catch Deuce there.

If you have a relatively recent chat_sec.js, just hitting 'R' from the Chat: prompt should take you right there.

/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00000001. pnt/0004006a.bsy failed.

Dos that .bsy file already exist? What are its contents? Maybe try deleting it?

No, there is only 00000001.clo and the listed .pkt files in there. I wonder if that .bsy file should be 00000001.bsy?

Even if the filename is wrong, it shouldn't fail to create (take) the .bsy file.

I just committed some hopefully-helpful debug output to binkit.js. Can you update and retry and paste the output here (especially right before that ".bsy failed." message)?

So the debug log detail for the non-working case (service/incoming BINKP) should help.

I think that was debug logging. In my sbbs.ini I have LogLevel=Debugging, or are there other steps I can take to increase the amount of logging?

There should be a lot more log output when full debug log output is enabled (e.g. M_NUL lines and such).

For incoming BINKP connections, those come into the service, so the log level would be configured in your services.ini file for those.

digital man

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From: al@TRMB.remove-tu4-this

To: mark lewis
Re: binkit secure session
By: mark lewis to Al on Tue Mar 06 2018 08:13 am

/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00000001.pnt/0004006a.bsy failed.

Dos that .bsy file already exist? What are its contents? Maybe try
deleting it?

No, there is only 00000001.clo and the listed .pkt files in there.
I wonder if that .bsy file should be 00000001.bsy?

is it sending mail directly to the point in question or is it sending netmail routed through the points BOSS node?

It is echomail from 21:4/106 being sent directly to 21:4/106.1.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: al@TRMB.remove-7n9-this

To: Digital Man
Re: binkit secure session
By: Digital Man to Al on Tue Mar 06 2018 01:00 pm

I just committed some hopefully-helpful debug output to binkit.js. Can you update and retry and paste the output here (especially right before that ".bsy failed." message)?

I updated and it is sending to that point.. :)

Mar 6 15:33:36 trmb synchronet: evnt Semaphore signaled for Timed Event: BINKP OLL
Mar 6 15:33:36 trmb synchronet: evnt Running timed event: BINKPOLL
Mar 6 15:33:36 trmb synchronet: evnt Running outbound
Mar 6 15:33:48 trmb synchronet: evnt Attempting poll for node 21:4/106.1@fsxne t
Mar 6 15:33:48 trmb synchronet: evnt Callout to 21:4/106.1@fsxnet started.
Mar 6 15:33:48 trmb synchronet: evnt Will encrypt session.
Mar 6 15:33:48 trmb synchronet: evnt Initializing crypt keys.
Mar 6 15:33:53 trmb synchronet: evnt Removed '/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/0004006a .pnt/5a9e75c1.pkt'.
Mar 6 15:33:53 trmb synchronet: evnt Removed '/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/0004006a .pnt/5a9e8527.pkt'.
Mar 6 15:33:53 trmb synchronet: evnt Removed '/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/0004006a .pnt/5a9e85db.pkt'.
Mar 6 15:33:53 trmb synchronet: evnt Removed '/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/0004006a .pnt/5a9ea027.pkt'.
Mar 6 15:33:53 trmb synchronet: evnt Removed '/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/0004006a .pnt/5a9ea1ad.pkt'.
Mar 6 15:33:53 trmb synchronet: evnt Removed '/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/0004006a .pnt/5a9ea306.pkt'.
Mar 6 15:33:53 trmb synchronet: evnt Removed '/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/0004006a .pnt/5a9ea824.pkt'.
Mar 6 15:33:53 trmb synchronet: evnt Removed '/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/0004006a .pnt/5a9ea8ce.pkt'.
Mar 6 15:33:56 trmb synchronet: evnt Timed event: BINKPOLL returned 0

I think that was debug logging. In my sbbs.ini I have
LogLevel=Debugging, or are there other steps I can take to increase
the amount of logging?

There should be a lot more log output when full debug log output is enabled (e.g. M_NUL lines and such).

For incoming BINKP connections, those come into the service, so the log level would be configured in your services.ini file for those.

I have added LogLevel=Debugging to services.ini but still don't see M_NUL lines it looks the same as before.

I'll let some for time pass and look again.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-zce-this

To: Al
Re: binkit secure session
By: Al to mark lewis on Tue Mar 06 2018 01:42 pm

Re: binkit secure session
By: mark lewis to Al on Tue Mar 06 2018 08:13 am

/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00000001.pnt/0004006a.bsy failed.

Dos that .bsy file already exist? What are its contents? Maybe try
deleting it?

No, there is only 00000001.clo and the listed .pkt files in there.
I wonder if that .bsy file should be 00000001.bsy?

is it sending mail directly to the point in question or is it sending netmail routed through the points BOSS node?

It is echomail from 21:4/106 being sent directly to 21:4/106.1.

... and I think that outbound directory calculation is now fixed. I'm guessing you didn't actually have a "00000001.pnt" directory, but rather a "0004006a.pnt" sub-directory (off of outbound.015)?

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From: daryl.stout@TBOLT.remove-30l-this

To: NIGHTFOX

... Dew knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl mistakes!

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From: al@TRMB.remove-7n9-this

To: Digital Man
Re: binkit secure session
By: Digital Man to Al on Tue Mar 06 2018 03:47 pm

It is echomail from 21:4/106 being sent directly to 21:4/106.1.

... and I think that outbound directory calculation is now fixed. I'm guessing you didn't actually have a "00000001.pnt" directory, but rather a "0004006a.pnt" sub-directory (off of outbound.015)?

Yes, I have 0004006a.pnt, that's the only directory in outbound.015.

Ttyl :-),
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From: kk4qbn@KK4QBN.remove-w30-this

To: Daryl Stout
Re: binkit secure session
By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Tue Mar 06 2018 13:51:00

Fur sael: IBM spel chekr. Wurks grate!

Eye'll bye wun. <G>

reminds me of a lot of the "spell checkers" that come with todays devices. you type it, spell it, and word it just right, and the spell checker screwes it all up.

turns it into millenial talk.. so apple and googles largest marketshare can understand it.

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-tra-this

To: Al
Re: binkit secure session
By: Al to Digital Man on Tue Mar 06 2018 06:25 pm

Re: binkit secure session
By: Digital Man to Al on Tue Mar 06 2018 03:47 pm

It is echomail from 21:4/106 being sent directly to 21:4/106.1.

... and I think that outbound directory calculation is now fixed. I'm guessing you didn't actually have a "00000001.pnt" directory, but rather a "0004006a.pnt" sub-directory (off of outbound.015)?

Yes, I have 0004006a.pnt, that's the only directory in outbound.015.

Okay, that explains why it couldn't create the .bsy file (the directory in which it was trying to create it didn't exist). :-)

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-nsz-this

To: KK4QBN
Re: binkit secure session
By: KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Tue Mar 06 2018 09:11 pm

Fur sael: IBM spel chekr. Wurks grate!

Eye'll bye wun. <G>

reminds me of a lot of the "spell checkers" that come with todays devices. you type it, spell it, and word it just right, and the spell checker screwes it all up.

turns it into millenial talk.. so apple and googles largest marketshare can understand it.

Are you referring to autocorrect?
There are a couple of sites that share funny autocorret failures.. damnyouautocorrect.com and autocorrectfail.org

Nightfox

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From: kk4qbn@KK4QBN.remove-e2o-this

To: Nightfox
Re: binkit secure session
By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed Mar 07 2018 09:38:38

turns it into millenial talk.. so apple and googles largest
marketshare can understand it.

Are you referring to autocorrect?
There are a couple of sites that share funny autocorret failures.. damnyouautocorrect.com and autocorrectfail.org

Yessir!

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