On 07-28-19 15:17, Netsurge wrote to All <=-
Can anyone tell me if sbbs can be used to gate email to netmail for an entire net using the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.domain.org convention?
The wiki isn't really clear as to whether it does it for it's own akas
or will route the message to other nodes.
On 07-28-19 21:47, Netsurge wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Fidogate and Ifgate both have these abilities. The problem with
Fidogate is that it hasn't been updated in almost 20 years. Without a
deep dive into the code, you can't compile it on any modern-ish
distros.
IFgate will work, but it's lack of documentation and it's complex m4 sendmail scripts make it really hard to work with.
I have started working on the fidogate code, but I think this is more
of a longterm project.
What would be nice is some of GIGO's functionality. GIGO could gate emails using at least 3 different addressing schemes:
f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.domain.org (I think this was only used for fidonet.org back in the day).
Can anyone tell me if sbbs can be used to gate email to netmail for an entire net using the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.domain.org convention?
The wiki isn't really clear as to whether it does it for it's own akas or will route the message to other nodes.
On 07-29-19 00:34, Digital Man wrote to Netsurge <=-
Re: email <-> netmail gate
By: Netsurge to All on Sun Jul 28 2019 03:17 pm
Can anyone tell me if sbbs can be used to gate email to netmail for an entire net using the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.domain.org convention?
No, only the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet convention.
Can anyone tell me if sbbs can be used to gate email to netmail for an entire net using the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.domain.org convention?
No, only the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet convention.
The wiki isn't really clear as to whether it does it for it's own akas or will route the message to other nodes.
It'll route if SBBSecho is configured to route outbound netmail.
On 07-29-19 00:34, Digital Man wrote to Netsurge <=-
Re: email <-> netmail gate
By: Netsurge to All on Sun Jul 28 2019 03:17 pm
Can anyone tell me if sbbs can be used to gate email to netmail for an entire net using the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.domain.org convention?
No, only the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet convention.
As I suspected, from what I had seen on my mailing lists. Would be nice if we could change the .fidonet to .mydomain.org, to run as a gateway.
On 07-29-19 08:00, Rampage wrote to Digital Man <=-
and sbbs determines the proper FTN doman at some point or is "fidonet" always used even with other FTNs?
and sbbs determines the proper FTN doman at some point or is
"fidonet" always used even with other FTNs?
I'm pretty sure it's always .fidonet .
Re: email <-> netmail gate
By: Digital Man to Netsurge on Mon Jul 29 2019 00:34:12
Can anyone tell me if sbbs can be used to gate email to netmail for an entire net using the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.domain.org convention?
No, only the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet convention.
and sbbs determines the proper FTN doman at some point or is "fidonet" always used even with other FTNs?
The wiki isn't really clear as to whether it does it for it's own akas or will route the message to other nodes.
It'll route if SBBSecho is configured to route outbound netmail.
can you clarify this? i sent a netmail addressed to my gmail account from my point system... sbbsecho says "unrecognized user" and the msg just sits in netmail... i don't see anything in echocfg that would indicate that sbbsecho will take netmail addressed to an internet domain and flip it out the SMTP to the smarthost or destination domain...
always used even with other FTNs?No, only the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet convention.
and sbbs determines the proper FTN doman at some point or is "fidonet"
It's just ".fidonet". The zone is present, I'm not sure why you would needor want multiple fake TLDs.
akas or will route the message to other nodes.The wiki isn't really clear as to whether it does it for it's own
my point system... sbbsecho says "unrecognized user" and the msg just sits in netmail... i don't see anything in echocfg that would indicate thatIt'll route if SBBSecho is configured to route outbound netmail.
can you clarify this? i sent a netmail addressed to my gmail account from
out the SMTP to the smarthost or destination domain...sbbsecho will take netmail addressed to an internet domain and flip it
It's the other way around. Mail received via SMTP can be addressed tosysop@f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet and the mail message will be stored as FidoNet NetMail message which SBBSecho can then pack/route/etc.
Like-wise, locally-stored received FTN NetMail can be read/replied to usinga POP3-capable email client.
Re: email <-> netmail gate
By: Digital Man to Rampage on Mon Jul 29 2019 15:42:33
No, only the f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet convention.
always used even with other FTNs?and sbbs determines the proper FTN doman at some point or is "fidonet"
It's just ".fidonet". The zone is present, I'm not sure why you would needor want multiple fake TLDs.
ummm... vkradio.net is not a fake TLD...
some.user@f<node>.n<net>.z432.vkradio.net is valid...
then, if zone 432
happens to be used by another FTN, the domain would certainly come into play to keep the netmail in the proper network...
akas or will route the message to other nodes.The wiki isn't really clear as to whether it does it for it's own
It'll route if SBBSecho is configured to route outbound netmail.
my point system... sbbsecho says "unrecognized user" and the msg just sits in netmail... i don't see anything in echocfg that would indicate thatcan you clarify this? i sent a netmail addressed to my gmail account from
out the SMTP to the smarthost or destination domain...sbbsecho will take netmail addressed to an internet domain and flip it
It's the other way around. Mail received via SMTP can be addressed tosysop@f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet and the mail message will be stored as FidoNet NetMail message which SBBSecho can then pack/route/etc.
ok... that's great... i hadn't tested that route because i always start with outbound from a FTN to an internet domain... being able to receive is great but that hurts when being unable to reply, too...
Like-wise, locally-stored received FTN NetMail can be read/replied to usinga POP3-capable email client.
yeah, i've done that, too, and ran into a problem there that i haven't had time to report... basically it was something to do with the name not being changed properly when a reply message was sent back... i'll have to gather the details for you later... right now i have to get out of this facility as it is 100+F again and i'm roasting... i only just realized how hot it has been today :(
Are you sure it's not .fight-o-net?
It's the other way around. Mail received via SMTP can be addressed to de>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet and the mail message will be stored as FidoNet sysop@f<no l message which SBBSecho can then pack/route/etc.
Can I then netmail UUCP to the node's node with To: somename@email.com the first line of the body and have it email it out using the same emai convention as above?
No, it doesn't do that.
It's the other way around. Mail received via SMTP can be addressed to de>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet and the mail message will be stored as FidoNet sysop@f<no l message which SBBSecho can then pack/route/etc.
So it has to be properly addressed to name@f<f>.n<n>.z<z>/fidonet.yourdomain.com ?
If so, would it properly route it if you used an alternate net's zone?
For
example, my SciNet node number is 77:1/100 so if another SciNet node received and email address to netsurge@f100.n1.z77.fidonet.theirdomain.org it would route it to me?
If so then that takes care of inbound gating, can sbbs do outbound gating?
Can I then netmail UUCP to the node's node with To: somename@email.com as the first line of the body and have it email it out using the same email convention as above?
Sure, no problem. There is special netmail gating magic with the QWK/REP feature s of Synchronet, but not with FTN netmail.
It really is amazing how much you have pushed the capabilities of QWK, it being such an old technology and all.
Sure, no problem. There is special netmail gating magic with the QWK/REP feature s of Synchronet, but not with FTN netmail.
Can I then netmail UUCP to the node's node with To: somename@email.com the first line of the body and have it email it out using the same emai convention as above?
No, it doesn't do that.
Thanks for the explanation, i appreciate it.
On 07-29-19 15:10, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I'm pretty sure it's always .fidonet .
Are you sure it's not .fight-o-net?
On 07-29-19 15:39, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
mailsrvr.c - it's open source. Give it a go!
On 07-29-19 19:05, mark lewis wrote to Digital Man <=-
ummm... vkradio.net is not a fake TLD...
and sbbs determines the proper FTN doman at some point or is
"fidonet" always used even with other FTNs?
I'm pretty sure it's always .fidonet .
Are you sure it's not .fight-o-net?
On 07-29-19 15:10, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I'm pretty sure it's always .fidonet .
Are you sure it's not .fight-o-net?
ROFLMAO! :D
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