• Re: WILDs Versus DILDs by daniel love?

    From sparkygriswold@1:229/2 to All on Friday, December 20, 2019 07:10:59
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    just remember coach that the truth (whatever it might be)
    doesn't need any 'defense' . What is real stands on its
    own without anyone's assistance. I would not worry too
    much about that which is not real. Stick to what you do
    know and let others just have their opinion. I doubt that
    you will change anyone's mind until they change their own.
    Laugh and be happy, it's ok if other people are full of shit.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, December 20, 2019 13:41:34
    From: slider@atashram.com

    ### - someone called scott robertson posted this article on fb, asking for
    a review of it, by said d.love; someone who apparently wrote a few
    well-known books on lucid dreaming: the dild-way hah! :)

    https://www.thelucidguide.com/post/wild-vs-dild-the-clash-of-the-preferences?fbclid=IwAR15clVwdnl4fAjO5gV7alndNvRo-ta-NZo-zf3_zeenHmipBSsLglCt_4g

    ***

    and this was what i wrote back to scott about it:

    Haha, well I like what 'you' wrote but not what he wrote heh, he's out of
    date for a start and, apparently, desperately trying to reserve dilds as
    being the method of choice for the many, not because that's necessarily
    the best all-round option (he prevaricates all over the place about that)
    but because he simply wants everyone to be different and/or to fall into
    neat little convenient/identifiable categories we can then hang a label
    on...

    It's thus not an honest debate on his part imho, and is just that guy
    giving his own biased opinion based of what he personally likes/dislikes
    and prefers, even though he then goes on to pour scorn of such
    preconceptions & beliefs like he doesn't include himself in that?

    Basically, from his pov, it comes across as though he's under threat from
    the advent of WILD, he wants radical change and upgrades for the
    community, and even dreams of them existing in the future, just so long as
    it's not WILDs? (he thus defers to the future and says he doesn't know?)

    His information is also dated: WILDs do NOT, for example, require using
    wbtb for instance, they're also not at all difficult or disorientating as
    he suggests they are; rather the opposite actually (he says he WILDs but doesn't like them 'coz it makes him feel dizzy? And no one has ever
    described them like that to my knowledge, so this makes me doubt he's
    actually done it...)

    Nope, his debate is actually a dishonest one, singularly designed in this instance to put people off rather than to contrast & compare the subject matter; he's not being impartial here and yet is accusing others of being precisely that...

    I dunno why, perhaps because he's so heavily invested in dilds,
    personally, that to change streams now would seem like undermining
    everything he's stated and stood by to date, which, as it goes heh, is precisely what understanding WILDs does! It blows the lid off of lucid
    dreaming and reveals it for what it really is!

    I mean, so what if everything people 'thought' about dilds was/is wrong? Wouldn't that still represent a great advance?? I guess some people might,
    with hindsight, then feel a bit silly for having put all their eggs in the
    one basket with such zeal (like Laberge did) and then preaching such a
    gospel to all & sundry as being the final word & say, i can see that could
    be fairly embarrassing i suppose, especially if one is not given to change and/or doesn't relish the prospect...

    imho, he's got nada to be ashamed of (and neither does Laberge), for it
    was these people's job to first bring lucid dreaming to the publics
    attention, and yes it was all about dilds, probably because that made the
    most sense (dreams happen in your sleep so waking up in them is what it's
    all about: very logical... albeit it a little shortsighted?)

    Only, of course, it's got nothing to do with logic and never did!
    Scientific principles create that illusion, that everything easily all
    adds-up & makes clear sense, only every time they peer out into the
    universe it's completely different to what they ever expected?

    Well ditto with our dreaming stuff too; dilds are a part of it for sure,
    but are not the whole equation... And while dilds have been exhaustively researched the same cannot yet be said about WILDs?

    Fortunately for all of us though, quite a few people are now having good success with WILDing that goes way beyond any previous + limiting
    descriptions of them, and just this very success is posing the questions
    that will ultimately have to be answered and a real + genuine debate on
    WILDs Versus DILDS with then ensue and no doubt illuminate us all :)

    (just my 2-cents heh)

    ***

    and which, i suggest, is bloody accurate! ;)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, December 20, 2019 15:39:21
    From: slider@anashram.com

    it's ok if other people are full of shit.

    ### - oh i know that alright haha, and i really don't mind either heh, it
    was anticipated, even expected?

    i.e., the old kings are toppling and new ones taking their place; but it's
    how they handle it that counts and that will ultimately reflect on their character? (there's only one or 3 usurpers currently but their numbers are growing!)

    mr-d just isn't handling it too well is all apparently heh, is feelin' it,
    and so he should! but exactly how he 'takes' it/accepts-it is entirely up
    to him though no? will he get all shitty about it and go all pompous on
    us, or will he man-up and see/understand that he's HAD his time! (and he
    had a pretty good time of it too! made a fortune!)

    that he 'should' instead be pleased & content with what he DID achieve,
    whereas to allow oneself to think/imagine that you now know it all and
    that's that, is, imho, to be just a little bit naive no?

    kings only ever rule for a while! they have their day and then they have
    to move-over for fresh blood?

    his shoulders now being some of the ones the new lot are all standing on,
    and seeing farther!

    this is the way things are, this is the way humanity learns!

    funny though still, how some old-fogeys (heh) can't help but grizzle some
    + actually try to stop the new wave arriving? - no no nooo! they cry! the
    sun goes round the earth! everyone knows that!? (riiiight...)

    we've 'had' the kings of dilds but their time of absolute authority is passing...

    long live the new kings! and long may these WILD kings rule!

    hahaha ;)

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  • From sparkygriswold@1:229/2 to All on Friday, December 20, 2019 07:49:06
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    king dildos are us

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, December 20, 2019 16:28:27
    From: slider@atashram.com

    king dildos are us

    ### - there might indeed be room for a dildo-rehab in wallyworld :)))

    slowly wean 'em off of it haha...

    (grinz...)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, December 22, 2019 11:03:15
    From: slider@atashram.com

    king dildos are us

    ### - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SF1iLXSQto

    "yeah i'll be king, when dogs get wings..." ;)

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