From: slider@anashram.com

Two apparently healthy teenagers have died in London after contracting coronavirus.

Ismail Mohamed Abdulwahab, 13, and Luca Di Nicola, 19, both passed away
having picked up the deadly virus.

Ismail, a schoolboy from Brixton, started showing symptoms and had trouble breathing on Thursday so was rushed to hospital, his relatives said.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-healthy-boy-13-is-youngest-uk-victim-11966526

They told how he tested positive for the disease the following day and was
put on a ventilator then into an induced coma - but he died in the early
hours of Monday at King's College Hospital.

COVID-19 is so infectious that his family could not be close to him as he passed away.

"We are beyond devastated," a statement released through a family friend
said.

"To our knowledge he had no underlying health conditions."

The ExCel London exhibition centre is being turned into an NHS coronavirus hospital

An appeal on a GoFundMe page set up by Madinah College to help with
funeral costs said: "It is with great sadness to announce that the younger brother of one of our teachers at Madinah College has sadly passed away
this morning (Monday 30 March 2020) due to being infected with COVID-19.

"Ismail was only 13 years old without any pre-existing health conditions
and sadly he died without any family members close by due to the highly infectious nature of COVID-19."

The appeal, which aimed to reach £4,000, has already raised more than £24,000.

One donor wrote: "I have a 13-year-old and I can't imagine what you are
going through. So so so sorry for your loss. Xxx."

Madinah College said it was "overwhelmed" with the "instant support" and tweeted "may Allah accept and love you all".

In a statement, King's College Hospital told Sky News: "Sadly, a 13-year
old boy who tested positive for COVID-19 has passed away, and our thoughts
and condolences are with the family at this time.

"The death has been referred to the coroner and no further comment will be made."

Mr Di Nicola, an assistant chef from Nereto in central Italy, was also
called "very healthy" by his family, and the NHS confirmed he had no
underlying health conditions.

He was taken by ambulance to the North Middlesex Hospital in Enfield,
north London, last Tuesday - but died 30 minutes later, from apparent
fulminant pneumonia.

Luca's father, Mirko, told La Repubblica that his son had contracted the
virus, and that the family received an email from British medical
authorities saying a postmortem swab had confirmed that.

It is believed the coroner has not officially confirmed it.

The government's latest daily announcement said 393 more people have died
after catching coronavirus - taking the UK total to 1,808.

A 12-year-old girl in Belgium is the youngest known person to die in
Europe after catching coronavirus.

Doctors have warned that while older people with health problems are at particular risk of COVID-19, that does not mean young people will be unaffected.

Dr Nathalie MacDermott, a clinical lecturer at King's College London,
said: "It is very sad to hear of the death of a 13-year-old infected with COVID-19.

"While we know it is much less likely for children to suffer severe
COVID-19 infection than older adults, this case highlights the importance
of us all taking the precautions we can to reduce the spread of infection
in the UK and worldwide."

Dr Jenny Harries, England's deputy chief medical officer, said young
people can still be affected and "it doesn't matter what age you are - you should be staying at home and observing all the social distancing measures
we have highlighted".

### - hmm, am curious as to the common denominator(s) existing between a seemingly completely healthy 13 year old and an 80 year old with serious underlying medical conditions? what is it that they share that's different
to that which all human beings otherwise share?

would this youngster have maybe gone-on in later life to develop similar serious underlying medical conditions for example? in which case, could it
be then a particular sequence of genetic material that they both share in common that would otherwise lead to developing them that, in this
instance, renders them both particularly susceptible to this virus?

that if true and eventually identified, this could even lead to future
tests used to detect such 'pending' illnesses well in advance of ever
going-on to actually developing them in later life depending on what they entail...

am guessing we'll have to wait until all the stats are finally in before
being able to draw any such conclusions and/or correlations, if any, huh,
but it's interesting...

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From: slider@anashram.com

### - one line stands out in that report that, in my haste, was left out
of my comments (duh) :)

i.e.,

"COVID-19 is so infectious that his family could not be close to him as he passed away."

iow: just how fucking 'infectious' IS this damnable thing anyway??

in italy, their frontline medical staff in their icu's, are having to wear
& use full hazmat-type sealed suits & rooms for example, and apply strict dressing & undressing protocols in order to avoid infection as anything
else was found to be wholly inadequate, their frontline troops (including
40 doctors) falling like ninepins just by coming into contact with them!

(slider in the coalmine here boss...)

cheep! cheep! cheep! cheep! cheep!

hahaha :)))

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From: intraphase@gmail.com

On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 11:57:46 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:

### - one line stands out in that report that, in my haste, was left out
of my comments (duh) :)

i.e.,

"COVID-19 is so infectious that his family could not be close to him as he passed away."

iow: just how fucking 'infectious' IS this damnable thing anyway??

in italy, their frontline medical staff in their icu's, are having to wear
& use full hazmat-type sealed suits & rooms for example, and apply strict dressing & undressing protocols in order to avoid infection as anything
else was found to be wholly inadequate, their frontline troops (including
40 doctors) falling like ninepins just by coming into contact with them!

(slider in the coalmine here boss...)

cheep! cheep! cheep! cheep! cheep!

hahaha :)))

For that reason USA is going to recommend everyone make masks.
Masks stop a person from hurling and launching the disease towards
airborne and solid surface vectors.

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From: intraphase@gmail.com

### - hmm, am curious as to the common denominator(s) existing between a seemingly completely healthy 13 year old and an 80 year old with serious underlying medical conditions? what is it that they share that's different
to that which all human beings otherwise share?

would this youngster have maybe gone-on in later life to develop similar serious underlying medical conditions for example? in which case, could it
be then a particular sequence of genetic material that they both share in common that would otherwise lead to developing them that, in this
instance, renders them both particularly susceptible to this virus?

that if true and eventually identified, this could even lead to future
tests used to detect such 'pending' illnesses well in advance of ever going-on to actually developing them in later life depending on what they entail...

am guessing we'll have to wait until all the stats are finally in before being able to draw any such conclusions and/or correlations, if any, huh,
but it's interesting...

If you want a guess I believe it is what's called the "Viral Load."

Low example; a person touches and object with only one half dead virus particle and accidentally rubs their eyes. It takes a long time for that single
particle to steal-seize a cell and begin reproducing new particles that can steal their own new distant cell and beging a cascade effect of exponential growth 1-10-100-1000-10,000

High example; a person touches an object with 50,000 fully live virus
particles and touches their nose. The early hours and days going from 1-10-100-1000-10,000 are skipped and the body's immune response doesn't
have time to seek out the virus and learn its code and generate antibodies.

Someone who got a low viral load, whose body adapted and fought the virus
into a neutral state, could shed the virus in large 50,000 particle droplets exposing someone to a high viral load the body cannot rev up and synchronize its defensive response.

That's my best guess.


A strong push by a highly regarded expert for the new drug cocktail. https://youtu.be/Ddqs4D46OME
and acquire

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From: slider@anashram.com

For that reason USA is going to recommend everyone make masks.
Masks stop a person from hurling and launching the disease towards
airborne and solid surface vectors.

### - that old guy in china was infectious for 49 days showing only a very
mild fever throughout, others were measured at 30-37 days, so 'every'
fucker wearing a mask outside is prolly a very good idea?

masks also stop someone from touching their mouth & nose so much, and also
from inhaling micro-droplets floating in the air that people have just breathed out, but the mesh in them has to be of the smaller micron type
(thus n95-type masks minimum)

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From: slider@anashram.com

Someone who got a low viral load, whose body adapted and fought the virus into a neutral state, could shed the virus in large 50,000 particle
droplets
exposing someone to a high viral load the body cannot rev up and
synchronize
its defensive response.

That's my best guess.

### - makes some sense alright... that being exposed to a high-loader
source hits ya harder/quicker and before one's immune system can kick-in
enough to stop it wrecking the lungs...

current best guess here being along the lines of an already perhaps
compromised immune system, that that young kid may have already been immuno-compromised in some form, he being young & strong he was still
ticking over on the plus side so no one even noticed it, yet in a few
years may have started to dip below the mid-line and begin showing
symptoms of it... people with diabetes, for example, being more
susceptible to infection than average being harder hit by this virus
because of that, older people nearly all having a somewhat compromised
immune system, or possibly just an already overloaded one depending on
what their underlying conditions are...

or conversely: is too active, in a way that would eventually lead to
someone developing some kinda auto-immune disease whereby t-cells attack healthy tissue; i.e., this shit infects via the lungs and the immune
system then goes overboard in destroying healthy lung tissue whilst trying
to learn about the virus (which can take several days to configure) only
by the time it's starting to recognise the virus itself it's already also completely destroyed the lungs in the process... damage to other organs as
well would/might confirm that...

that young people also generally 'heal' faster than older people and can
thus stay ahead of the curve unless immuno-compromised in some way,
whereas older people generally take longer to heal and could more easily
fall behind...

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one item picked up on today: this shit can get on your shoes from walking
in places where lots of people are (like supermarkets & railway stations
etc) and then walked right into your home! so, having been out, changing
back into different shoes/slippers for indoor use only is prolly quite a
good idea...

it's that or wearing plastic bags over your shoes when ya go out lol :)))

could even become a new fashion statement! haha! :)

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