• Re: =?utf-8?B?UHJlc3N1cmUgbW91bnRzIG9uIFRydW1wIHRvIOKAnGRyb3AgdGhlIGhhb

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, May 02, 2020 00:09:19
    From: slider@anashram.com

    sigh, ok, bring-on the apocalypse then, see if i care anymore; humanity
    is
    recklessly suicidal and obviously hates itself sooo much it just wants
    to
    be dead!

    i give up!

    (bunch of fuckin' nuts on this planet boss! lol am outta here!)

    it's the shitty ego that brings on all this destruction.
    "gotta be the best", "gotta be number 1", sad but true.

    ### - absolutely correct! it's just kids playin' king of the castle all
    day long and never gets bored with it, loves it, dreams of it, but lol no decent adult would ever be seen dead playing it...


    i don't know maybe (in light of all this shit) death is not
    that bad afterall. Do you feel lucky punk? not this week.

    ### - ahahaha, can just imagine the adverts for this place innit: buddhas!
    come to wunerfull-wallyworld where so much shit goes down you'll be
    literally beggin for death to bring ya's back home again lol, an enriching experience that will last you for centuries & until you're bored enough to foolishly try incarnating again!

    and well, i dunno about you, but this is 'defo' my last ride on this shit
    lol :)))

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, May 09, 2020 11:44:24
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Sat, 02 May 2020 00:09:19 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:


    sigh, ok, bring-on the apocalypse then, see if i care anymore; humanity
    is
    recklessly suicidal and obviously hates itself sooo much it just wants
    to
    be dead!

    i give up!

    (bunch of fuckin' nuts on this planet boss! lol am outta here!)

    it's the shitty ego that brings on all this destruction.
    "gotta be the best", "gotta be number 1", sad but true.

    ### - absolutely correct! it's just kids playin' king of the castle all
    day long and never gets bored with it, loves it, dreams of it, but lol no >decent adult would ever be seen dead playing it...


    i don't know maybe (in light of all this shit) death is not
    that bad afterall. Do you feel lucky punk? not this week.

    ### - ahahaha, can just imagine the adverts for this place innit: buddhas! >come to wunerfull-wallyworld where so much shit goes down you'll be
    literally beggin for death to bring ya's back home again lol, an enriching >experience that will last you for centuries & until you're bored enough to >foolishly try incarnating again!

    and well, i dunno about you, but this is 'defo' my last ride on this shit
    lol :)))

    My dear Brian, if I were you living in that pest hole of a flat and
    denying your daughter her birthright, I would be pining for another
    shot at life - because this one hasn't really turned out too good, has
    it?



    Every Night and every Morn
    Some to Misery are Born.
    Every Morn and every Night
    Some are Born to sweet delight.
    Some are Born to sweet delight,
    Some are Born to Endless Night.

    William Blake

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to allreadydun@gmail.com on Saturday, May 09, 2020 11:44:09
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Fri, 1 May 2020 15:30:37 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
    <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:

    slider wrote:
    Trump wants to retaliate against China over its handling of the
    coronavirus outbreak. Exactly how is anyone’s guess.

    As President Donald Trump weighs ideas for punishing China over its
    handling of the coronavirus outbreak, some inside and outside the White
    House want him to respond forcefully.

    https://www.vox.com/2020/5/1/21244364/trump-china-coronavirus-debt-retaliate

    “In my personal opinion, we should drop the fucking hammer on them. Stop >> being such pussies,” a senior White House official told me, speaking on
    condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to disclose
    internal deliberations.

    Top Trump allies, including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Republican
    senators, are pushing Trump to castigate China. Sen. Lindsey Graham, for
    example, has said the US should “make China pay big time.”

    The Washington Post reported Thursday that US officials from multiple
    agencies were planning to gather that day to discuss crafting some sort of >> retaliation against China.

    “President Trump has fumed to aides and others in recent days about China, >> blaming the country for withholding information about the virus,” the Post >> reported.

    The Chinese government delayed releasing information about the outbreak of >> Covid-19 in the city of Wuhan, costing world governments precious time to
    prepare. It’s ruthlessly exploiting the pandemic to further its own
    foreign policy goals. And on Friday, Sky News reported that the Chinese
    government is refusing to allow investigators with the World Health
    Organization to participate in China’s inquiries into the virus’s origin.

    These actions — as well as Trump’s likely desire to deflect some of the >> blame from his own administration’s poor response to the coronavirus
    crisis in the US — are why the Trump administration is looking to formally >> rebuke China in some way.

    Here’s what’s in the works.

    From stripping sovereign immunity to canceling debt

    The ideas reportedly under consideration include stripping China of its
    “sovereign immunity” status under US law — which would allow the US
    government or private citizens to sue the country — and cancelling some or >> all of the interest payments on the more than $1 trillion in debt the US
    owes to China (the senior White House official I spoke to said they favor
    the latter option).

    we owe these guys one trillion dollars, these are interest payments?
    how the fuck did we get so far in debt with these crooks?
    Man are they going to hold this over our heads. We're fucked in
    this regard. Tough to negotiate when they already have the winning hand.

    Hehe, not only that but around $3 trillion USD in Chinese reserves
    ready to drop onto the global markets if the US gets too uppity.

    Fucking stupid if you ask me. American "exceptionalism" at its best
    :)




    “Punishing China is definitely where the president’s head is at right
    now,” one senior adviser told the Washington Post on Thursday.

    Let's see how that "art of the deal" crap works now.
    great theory on paper but in real life?? good luck comandante.

    Yet Trump, in public at least, has sounded far more cautious about using
    these measures. “You start playing those games and that’s tough,” Trump
    said at a press conference on Thursday when asked about the idea of
    canceling interest payments to China, adding that doing so could undermine >> the “sanctity of the [US] dollar.”

    Yeah that would be the first mistake in a long line of many others.
    we need many other countries to go after China.

    Won't be us notwithstanding our PM's slavish attitude to the equally
    stupid D-Trump. We have over 30% of the world's iron ore in proven
    reserves and much more undiscovered, all high grade and we're one
    third of the distance to China that the next best source, Brazil, is.
    We make a fortune from China on that and high grade coal. They're our
    buddies lol

    When China starts up again, they all gonna need our iron ore and our
    coal. You little beauty.

    This echoes comments made the same day by Trump’s top economic adviser
    Larry Kudlow, who called reports the administration was considering
    canceling debt payments “absolutely and unequivocally untrue,” adding that
    “the full faith and credit of US debt obligations is sacrosanct.”

    Yeah no time to be "men not worth their word". We must remain upright.

    This is why the senior White House official I spoke to said they’re “very
    doubtful senior advisers will allow” the debt-payment idea to go forward, >> acknowledging that Congress would likely try to block such a move anyway.

    Oh yeah because they are men and women of such high integrity aren't they?

    But some Trump advisers and allies are still pushing the president to
    retaliate against China in some way.

    Just be friends with Taiwan, that's sure to piss them off forever.
    People with any sense left China along time ago and moved to Taiwan.

    They fucking did not. Total and utter bullshit from a stupid old man
    who doesn't read and still stings from his wasted decades with old CC.


    At the same Thursday press conference, Trump suggested another idea:
    imposing billions of dollars in additional tariffs on China.

    maybe they will just stop selling shit to us.

    Yep, and force you yanks to make your own iphones at home and your own
    clothes and memory chips and leds and torches and the other million
    things that are made in Chinese factories.

    Unfortunately, the CHinese have already won the war with the USA.



    Why tariffs wouldn’t punish China

    To punish China, the US “can do it with tariffs,” Trump said Thursday.

    Let's make them eat American fast food for a few years, that should
    turn them around a little. Let's give away all their rice to India.

    Yep, let them all look like you with your flabby overweight physique.


    Yet there’s (at least) one big, glaring problem with this idea: Though
    Trump has long believed that China pays these tariffs and the money goes
    to the US Treasury, that is not at all how tariffs actually work.

    Tariffs raise the price of buying Chinese goods for American consumers.
    The idea is that by making Chinese products more expensive, American
    consumers will stop buying them from China and buy them more cheaply from
    somewhere else instead. While that would ultimately harm Chinese producers >> in the long run, in the short run, it’s American consumers who are stuck >> paying these tariffs, not China.

    Maybe it's a big time for a change? Go back to buying from Japan.

    Chinese make better iphones (google foxconn), better batteries, better
    torches, better clothes and so on - than Japan. Japanese make better
    cars though than anyone. I should know, just bought the wife a CX-5
    GT turbo to go with my Isuzu 4x4 :)


    With US unemployment claims having reached a staggering 30 million and the >> country facing an economic downturn unseen since the Great Depression,
    making things more expensive for American consumers would be less a
    punishment on China and more a self-own.

    Right now China can kiss their tourism department good-bye for a long time.

    They don't give a shit about tourism. They have defeated COVID-19 and
    have only had one death in the last week or so. You guys have around
    3000 death PER DAY for fuck's sake, up to 78,615 right now with almost
    1.5 million tested infections and no end in sight. I think you've
    blown it - yanks always think they are exceptional to the world, well
    now the world has kicked in your door and then some.


    On top of that, the US has already placed tariffs on nearly every major
    Chinese product, so it’s not even clear that the eventual impact on


    Chinese manufacturers would be all that meaningful.

    Their tits are in the wringer now, keep the washing machine on. lol!

    You are full time stupid. There's no helping dumb cunts like you.


    Still, it seems some kind of retaliation is coming. Asked Friday about the >> administration’s China considerations, White House press secretary
    Kayleigh McEnany said she wouldn’t get ahead of the president on any
    announcements, but she reiterated Trump’s “displeasure with China,”
    adding, “It’s no secret that China mishandled this situation.”

    No kidding Perry Mason, how can you tell ?

    China mishandled the situation? Really? Chinese deaths - 4,633; US
    deaths - 78,615.

    Who mishandled the situation?


    “The China approach is all over the place”

    Some sort of grander planning has already begun.

    Multiple sources at the State Department told me that Pompeo has almost
    every office doing some sort of work involving China. Whether in Asia, the >> Middle East, Latin America, or elsewhere, Pompeo has staff looking at ways >> to counter China’s aims, such as having US allies end certain business
    contracts with Beijing.

    Sounds good. Nothing personal China, but you all can go fuck yourselfs.

    I think they're too busy fucking the USA to fuck themselves lol

    However, some in the State Department believe there’s no real strategy to >> the top-down directive. The entire idea is “shortsighted,” said one
    staffer tasked with finding ways to push back on China, who spoke on
    condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the
    press. “The China approach is all over the place.”

    Another State Department staffer pushed back against the notion that the
    department is in search of a more-robust-than-normal stance against China. >> “It is our standard policy to counter Chinese influence,” they told me.

    What’s clear, though, is that the administration is thinking of ways to up >> the ante against China. When, and what, Trump decides to do is what
    everyone’s waiting on.

    Would that just be a pile of shit for the new incoming president IF
    Trumpy gets voted out? How would YOU like to inherit dem apples?

    ### - oh jesus here we go... first a trade war followed by all-out war?

    A trade war? Dude we are 1 trillion in the hole already.
    How about a good old fashion blow the shit out of one
    another and last man standing gets to walk away?

    You forgot the $3 trillion in USD reserves owned by the Chinese.
    That's what will prevent war by the US.


    markets currently tumbling at the prospect, as if they weren't already
    struggling!

    Yep it got spooked today to the tune of what 600 points or so?

    oh well, at least we'll all get nuked at home in our own beds then hah,
    plus that's one way to get rid of the virus innit lol; just get rid of
    humanity itself altogether and the problem goes away!

    aha ha ha, taking out the mosquitos by bringing the wall down. ha ha

    oh boy... and here was i thinking i might actually live to the ripe old
    age of 70??

    Place your bets mr. luckyman. luckyrat will already be gone.

    sigh, ok, bring-on the apocalypse then, see if i care anymore; humanity is >> recklessly suicidal and obviously hates itself sooo much it just wants to
    be dead!

    i give up! :D

    (bunch of fuckin' nuts on this planet boss! lol am outta here!)

    it's the shitty ego that brings on all this destruction.
    "gotta be the best", "gotta be number 1", sad but true.
    i don't know maybe (in light of all this shit) death is not
    that bad afterall. Do you feel lucky punk? not this week.

    Lol.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)