• Activists, progressives demand reversal of parliamentarian ruling again

    From Leroy N. Soetoro@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 17:24:17
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    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/20/activists-progressives- demand-reversal-parliamenta/

    Immigrant rights advocates said Monday that Democrats must change, ignore
    or overturn the Senate parliamentarian’s ruling that the law precludes
    adding an amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants to the $3.5 trillion budget bill.

    Some activists said they’re willing to give party leaders more time to
    change Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough’s mind with an alternative legalization plan.

    But a growing chorus of voices said Democrats must ponder tougher
    measures, including voting to overturn her decision, upend 30 years of
    Senate practice and bully the amnesty through Congress.

    “It’s time to stop honoring archaic procedures and honor the promises we
    made to immigrant families,” Rep. Ayanna Pressley, Massachusetts Democrat,
    said on Twitter.

    The National Immigration Law Center explicitly said Democrats must vote to “overrule” the decision and warned of “implications” if the party falls
    short.

    The tough talk underscored the stakes for Democrats on immigration after
    years of promises for action that ended without a bill clearing Congress.

    The new hiccup came with Ms. MacDonough, who ruled that attempting to
    grant legal status to as many as 8 million illegal immigrants was a
    massive policy change and thus can’t be tucked into budget
    “reconciliation,” a process that allows the majority to avoid a filibuster
    and pass fiscal legislation by majority vote.

    Democratic leaders say they have alternative proposals that they think
    might fit into the rules.

    Some activists said they’ll give Democrats time to make that case.

    “The parliamentarian is a civil servant, and we want to be respectful of
    the role that she has played. She serves at the pleasure of Democratic leadership. Her response was political, but we have more political power,”
    said Gustavo Torres, executive director of CASA, a prominent immigrant-
    rights group in the Washington area.

    But activists said there can be no doubt about where things end up:
    Democrats must find a way to pass broad legalization.

    “President Biden and Democrats in Congress promised to protect immigrant
    youth and their families,” United We Dream Action said in an email to supporters. “We CANNOT accept broken promises.”

    One option Democrats are pondering is updating a portion of existing law
    that gives illegal immigrants in the country before 1972 the chance to
    apply for a green card, the key step on the path to citizenship. Backers
    say a more recent date could offer citizenship rights to millions of
    people.

    Advocates said other possibilities are being discussed as well.

    Should Democrats fail to come up with a plan that wins Ms. MacDonough’s approval, activists — and more than a few members of Congress — say the
    next step is to sideline her.

    “This is not a ruling. This is nothing binding. It’s opinion,” Ms.
    Pressley told reporters. “I don’t think that a Senate parliamentarian, who
    has proven themselves on multiple occasions to be an obstructionist toward getting what we need to get done on behalf of the people and to advance
    the president’s agenda, should be standing in the way.”

    Senate Democrats could vote to overturn her decision, but Senate Majority
    Whip Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, chairman of the Judiciary Committee
    and Democrats’ chief negotiator on immigration, said that’s not likely.

    “I think the votes needed on the floor are not there,” he said.

    Democrats could try to fire Ms. MacDonough and find a more pliable parliamentarian. Republicans took that approach after a ruling they didn’t
    like when they controlled the chamber two decades ago.

    Some Democrats renewed their call to defang the filibuster, which would eliminate the need to use the convoluted budget reconciliation process to
    pass bills by majority vote.

    Republicans said Ms. MacDonough got it right in her decision.

    Sen. Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee, said immigration is such a big issue that it shouldn’t be
    tucked inside a budget debate as if it were just another spending
    proposal.

    “At its core, the issue of immigration is about the policies we put in
    place to give people from around the world one of the most meaningful and precious gifts we can give: the right to legally establish your life here
    and, in many cases, pursue American citizenship,” he said.

    He said Democrats could make the situation much easier by curtailing their appetite for amnesty and limiting the pool of people they want to
    legalize.

    A deal to grant a path to citizenship to illegal immigrant “Dreamers,”
    those who came to the U.S. as children and who are considered the most sympathetic cases, could be had easily if it is coupled with border
    security, Republican lawmakers said.

    Activists said that’s not enough.

    They see a chance to grant citizenship rights to Dreamers, those here
    under the Temporary Protected Status program and those deemed “essential” workers — a pool of people that could range from 6 million to 8 million.

    The version of the proposal that cleared the House Judiciary Committee
    last week did not include border security or enforcement measures.

    • Haris Alic contributed to this article.



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  • From Duque Mantee@1:229/2 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:44:34
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    On 9/21/21 11:24 AM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/20/activists-progressives- demand-reversal-parliamenta/

    Immigrant rights advocates said Monday that Democrats must change, ignore
    or overturn the Senate parliamentarian’s ruling that the law precludes adding an amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants to the $3.5 trillion budget bill.

    Some activists said they’re willing to give party leaders more time to change Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough’s mind with an alternative legalization plan.

    But a growing chorus of voices said Democrats must ponder tougher
    measures, including voting to overturn her decision, upend 30 years of
    Senate practice and bully the amnesty through Congress.

    “It’s time to stop honoring archaic procedures and honor the promises we made to immigrant families,” Rep. Ayanna Pressley, Massachusetts Democrat, said on Twitter.

    The National Immigration Law Center explicitly said Democrats must vote to “overrule” the decision and warned of “implications” if the party falls
    short.

    The tough talk underscored the stakes for Democrats on immigration after years of promises for action that ended without a bill clearing Congress.

    The new hiccup came with Ms. MacDonough, who ruled that attempting to
    grant legal status to as many as 8 million illegal immigrants was a
    massive policy change and thus can’t be tucked into budget “reconciliation,” a process that allows the majority to avoid a filibuster
    and pass fiscal legislation by majority vote.

    Democratic leaders say they have alternative proposals that they think
    might fit into the rules.

    Some activists said they’ll give Democrats time to make that case.

    “The parliamentarian is a civil servant, and we want to be respectful of the role that she has played. She serves at the pleasure of Democratic leadership. Her response was political, but we have more political power,” said Gustavo Torres, executive director of CASA, a prominent immigrant- rights group in the Washington area.

    But activists said there can be no doubt about where things end up:
    Democrats must find a way to pass broad legalization.

    “President Biden and Democrats in Congress promised to protect immigrant youth and their families,” United We Dream Action said in an email to supporters. “We CANNOT accept broken promises.”

    One option Democrats are pondering is updating a portion of existing law
    that gives illegal immigrants in the country before 1972 the chance to
    apply for a green card, the key step on the path to citizenship. Backers
    say a more recent date could offer citizenship rights to millions of
    people.

    Advocates said other possibilities are being discussed as well.

    Should Democrats fail to come up with a plan that wins Ms. MacDonough’s approval, activists — and more than a few members of Congress — say the next step is to sideline her.

    “This is not a ruling. This is nothing binding. It’s opinion,” Ms. Pressley told reporters. “I don’t think that a Senate parliamentarian, who
    has proven themselves on multiple occasions to be an obstructionist toward getting what we need to get done on behalf of the people and to advance
    the president’s agenda, should be standing in the way.”

    Senate Democrats could vote to overturn her decision, but Senate Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, chairman of the Judiciary Committee
    and Democrats’ chief negotiator on immigration, said that’s not likely.

    “I think the votes needed on the floor are not there,” he said.

    Democrats could try to fire Ms. MacDonough and find a more pliable parliamentarian. Republicans took that approach after a ruling they didn’t like when they controlled the chamber two decades ago.

    Some Democrats renewed their call to defang the filibuster, which would eliminate the need to use the convoluted budget reconciliation process to pass bills by majority vote.

    Republicans said Ms. MacDonough got it right in her decision.

    Sen. Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee, said immigration is such a big issue that it shouldn’t be
    tucked inside a budget debate as if it were just another spending
    proposal.

    “At its core, the issue of immigration is about the policies we put in place to give people from around the world one of the most meaningful and precious gifts we can give: the right to legally establish your life here and, in many cases, pursue American citizenship,” he said.

    He said Democrats could make the situation much easier by curtailing their appetite for amnesty and limiting the pool of people they want to
    legalize.

    A deal to grant a path to citizenship to illegal immigrant “Dreamers,” those who came to the U.S. as children and who are considered the most sympathetic cases, could be had easily if it is coupled with border
    security, Republican lawmakers said.

    Activists said that’s not enough.

    They see a chance to grant citizenship rights to Dreamers, those here
    under the Temporary Protected Status program and those deemed “essential” workers — a pool of people that could range from 6 million to 8 million.

    The version of the proposal that cleared the House Judiciary Committee
    last week did not include border security or enforcement measures.

    • Haris Alic contributed to this article.




    Odd how "lawmakers" encourage non-citizens and illegal aliens to break
    the very laws that the "lawmakers" passed into law. It encourages
    lawlessness and crime, making breaking our laws seem noble and righteous
    while making the Parliamentarian look like some kind of horrible
    American for demanding that the rules be observed in Congress. These lawmakers, "activists" and "immigrant rights advocates" have too much
    power and influence in the former Free World and are making former great nations look weak and their leaders appear mentally retarded. The parliamentarian is a heroic figure, a modern day version of the patriots
    of old who defeated the British during the American Revolution. We need
    to purge Congress of these anti-white, anti-American traitors.

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    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

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