• Re: ? Fuel that fires; the Treaty of Versailles revisited

    From Byker@1:229/2 to Byker on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 17:12:58
    XPost: can.politics, soc.history.what-if, alt.history.what-if
    XPost: soc.culture.europe
    From: byker@do~rag.net

    "SolomonW" wrote in message news:1b9z0izypgivr$.16q68d5n7utxn.dlg@40tude.net...

    On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 12:42:22 -0500, Byker wrote:

    WWI didn't HAVE to end that way:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9lWdkCxXYg

    I agree with the video.

    Prior to the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK had been reading historian Barbara Tuchman's "The Guns of August", that traced how the Great Powers, simultaneously headstrong and yet unsure of themselves, slipped, stumbled,
    and miscalculated their way into the Great War in 1914. The President was particularly haunted by a conversation between two German leaders after the
    war had spiraled out of control. One, a former chancellor, asked the current chancellor, "How did it all happen?" The latter, who led his nation into
    war, replied, "Ah, if only one knew."

    As the Crisis darkened, Jack told Bobby that he wanted to avoid someone
    someday writing a comparable "Missiles of October". As JFK recalled later,
    "If this planet is ever ravaged by nuclear war...I do not want one of those survivors to ask another, 'How did it all happen?' and receive the
    incredible reply, 'Ah, if only one knew.'"

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  • From SolomonW@1:229/2 to Byker on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 18:42:12
    XPost: can.politics, soc.history.what-if, alt.history.what-if
    XPost: soc.culture.europe
    From: SolomonW@citi.com

    On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 17:12:58 -0500, Byker wrote:

    "SolomonW" wrote in message news:1b9z0izypgivr$.16q68d5n7utxn.dlg@40tude.net...

    On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 12:42:22 -0500, Byker wrote:

    WWI didn't HAVE to end that way:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9lWdkCxXYg

    I agree with the video.

    Prior to the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK had been reading historian Barbara Tuchman's "The Guns of August", that traced how the Great Powers, simultaneously headstrong and yet unsure of themselves, slipped, stumbled, and miscalculated their way into the Great War in 1914. The President was particularly haunted by a conversation between two German leaders after the war had spiraled out of control. One, a former chancellor, asked the current chancellor, "How did it all happen?" The latter, who led his nation into
    war, replied, "Ah, if only one knew."

    As the Crisis darkened, Jack told Bobby that he wanted to avoid someone someday writing a comparable "Missiles of October". As JFK recalled later, "If this planet is ever ravaged by nuclear war...I do not want one of those survivors to ask another, 'How did it all happen?' and receive the
    incredible reply, 'Ah, if only one knew.'"

    This view is no longer widely held of an accidental start of ww1

    Checkout a book https://www.amazon.com/Europes-Last-Summer-Started-Great/dp/037572575X

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