• Re: Why The Left Tells Lies About Christopher Columbus

    From Rudy Canoza@1:229/2 to David Hartung on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 08:05:15
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: js@phendrie.con

    On 10/12/2021 6:38 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7-
    amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and De las
    Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


          Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers' actions?

    They were all in it together and all in agreement on how to run the island. The
    Spanish authorities evidently knew that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Rudy Canoza@1:229/2 to David Hartung on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 07:59:39
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: js@phendrie.con

    On 10/12/2021 4:19 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.

    He did.



    Interesting read, thank you.

    It's a bunch of right-wingnut bullshit. It's not interesting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Bob Duncan@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 17:17:56
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bob7duncan@gmail.com

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.

    Evasion noted.

    He was a fucking italian who never set foot in the USA.

    Dagos are nothing but shit. Considering them white people is ridiculous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From B1ackwater@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 17:17:55
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bw@magik.beanz.net

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.


    Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From David Hartung@1:229/2 to Mitchell Holman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 06:21:25
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: d_hartung@hotmail.com

    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl- JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7-
    amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and De las >>>> Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


    Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers' actions?


    Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the leftist
    agenda is acceptable, right?


    The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Rudy Canoza@1:229/2 to David Hartung on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 07:14:12
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: js@phendrie.con

    On 10/13/2021 4:21 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl-
    JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7- >>>> amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and De las >>>>> Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


           Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers' actions?


           Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the leftist
    agenda is acceptable, right?


           The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    We know what Columbus did, and he is guilty.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@1:229/2 to d_hartung@hotmail.com on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 17:26:16
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA

    On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 16:18:56 -0500, David Hartung
    <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/13/21 9:14 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 4:21 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl-
    JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
    news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7-
    amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and De >>>>>>> las
    Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


           Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers' actions?


           Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the leftist >>>>> agenda is acceptable, right?


           The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    We know what Columbus did, and he is guilty.

    Says Rudy without the first bit of evidence.

    Rudy lives in lala land, and doesn't have a clue,
    whatever the leftist talking heads say, Rudy says it too.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From David Hartung@1:229/2 to Rudy Canoza on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 16:18:56
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: d_hartung@hotmail.com

    On 10/13/21 9:14 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 4:21 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl-
    JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
    news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7-
    amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and De >>>>>> las
    Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


           Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers' actions?


           Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the leftist
    agenda is acceptable, right?


           The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    We know what Columbus did, and he is guilty.

    Says Rudy without the first bit of evidence.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Rudy Canoza@1:229/2 to David Hartung on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 15:28:55
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: notgenx32@gmail.com

    On 10/13/2021 2:18 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/13/21 9:14 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 4:21 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl-
    JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7- >>>>>> amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and De las >>>>>>> Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


           Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers' actions?


           Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the leftist >>>>> agenda is acceptable, right?


           The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    We know what Columbus did, and he is guilty.

    Says Rudy without the first bit of evidence.

    We have the historical record of what Columbus did, starting with his enslavement of people on the islands and his pitting tribes against tribes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Rudy Canoza@1:229/2 to Blue Lives Matter on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 15:32:55
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: js@phendrie.con

    On 10/13/2021 2:26 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 16:18:56 -0500, David Hartung
    <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/13/21 9:14 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 4:21 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl-
    JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
    news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7-
    amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and De >>>>>>>> las
    Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


           Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers' actions? >>>>>

           Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the leftist >>>>>> agenda is acceptable, right?


           The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    We know what Columbus did, and he is guilty.

    Says Rudy without the first bit of evidence.

    Rudy lives in California, and knows more about what's what than any right-wingnut.

    Correct.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From David Hartung@1:229/2 to Rudy Canoza on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 19:14:21
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: d_hartung@hotmail.com

    On 10/13/21 5:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 2:18 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/13/21 9:14 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 4:21 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl-
    JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
    news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7-
    amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and >>>>>>>> De las
    Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


           Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers' actions? >>>>>

           Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the leftist >>>>>> agenda is acceptable, right?


           The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    We know what Columbus did, and he is guilty.

    Says Rudy without the first bit of evidence.

    We have the historical record of what Columbus did, starting with his enslavement of people on the islands and his pitting tribes against tribes.

    You are aware that slavery was being practice in the Americas when
    Columbus arrived? Yo uare aware that the tribes were already fighting
    among themselves?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Mitchell Holman@1:229/2 to David Hartung on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 20:54:23
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: noemail@verizon.net

    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:sZSdnQoIraHd0Pr8nZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/13/21 9:14 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 4:21 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl-
    JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
    news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7-
    amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and
    De
    las
    Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


           Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers'
    actions?


           Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the
    leftist
    agenda is acceptable, right?


           The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    We know what Columbus did, and he is guilty.

    Says Rudy without the first bit of evidence.



    Since when do YOU care about evidence?




    "However, President Obama's criminal actions
    are still affecting the nation, and they need
    to be corrected"
    David Hartung, evidence-free claim, Dec 20 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/wgucfa3

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Mitchell Holman@1:229/2 to David Hartung on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 21:01:31
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: noemail@verizon.net

    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:lMKdnYUMMbH96_r8nZ2dnUU7-RvNnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/13/21 5:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 2:18 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/13/21 9:14 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 4:21 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl-
    JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
    news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7-
    amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes,
    and De las
    Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


           Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus >>>>>>>
    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers'
    actions?


           Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the
    leftist agenda is acceptable, right?


           The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    We know what Columbus did, and he is guilty.

    Says Rudy without the first bit of evidence.

    We have the historical record of what Columbus did, starting with his
    enslavement of people on the islands and his pitting tribes against
    tribes.

    You are aware that slavery was being practice in the Americas when
    Columbus arrived? Yo uare aware that the tribes were already fighting
    among themselves?


    1) Columbus never set foot in the Americas.
    His voyages were entirely to islands in the
    Caribbean.

    2) The only tribe he dealt with was the
    Taíno, a subgroup of the Arawaks, The were
    not at war with anyone that he knew of. He
    and his colonists made war on them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta%C3%ADno

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Wayne Autrey@1:229/2 to David Hartung on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 19:25:15
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa
    From: another.loser@terrells.pals

    On 10/13/2021 5:14 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/13/21 5:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 2:18 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/13/21 9:14 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/13/2021 4:21 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/12/21 8:50 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KfGdnbTyl-
    JfEvj8nZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/12/21 8:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7-
    amdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and De las
    Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.


           Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus >>>>>>>
    You hold Christopher Columbus accountable for his brothers' actions? >>>>>>

           Responsibility starts at the top, no?


    I
    guess that isn't real surprising, anything which advances the leftist >>>>>>> agenda is acceptable, right?


           The article lied, Columbus was arrested
    and hauled back to Spain in chains. Fact.

    Which automatically means that he was guilty?

    We know what Columbus did, and he is guilty.

    Says Rudy without the first bit of evidence.

    We have the historical record of what Columbus did, starting with his
    enslavement of people on the islands and his pitting tribes against tribes.

    You are aware that slavery was being practice in the Americas when Columbus arrived?

    Cite.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Hear O Israel, Jesus Is The Messiah@1:229/2 to Mitchell Holman on Monday, November 01, 2021 15:57:30
    From: meluciwam16@gmail.com

    On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 9:03:36 AM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote in news:v7WdnYgL3q1ZyPj8nZ2dnUU7- amd...@giganews.com:


    De las Casas never mentions Columbus committing any crimes, and De las Casas did not shrink from accusing anyone.
    Wrong.

    Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."


    You were there, right?


    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From B1ackwater@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Wednesday, November 03, 2021 17:11:09
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bw@magik.beanz.net

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.


    Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Bob Duncan@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Tuesday, November 09, 2021 22:04:57
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bob7duncan@gmail.com

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.

    Evasion noted.

    He was a fucking italian who never set foot in the USA.

    Dagos are nothing but shit. Considering them white people is ridiculous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From B1ackwater@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Thursday, November 11, 2021 01:29:53
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bw@magik.beanz.net

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.


    Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Bob Duncan@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Saturday, November 27, 2021 23:24:00
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bob7duncan@gmail.com

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.

    Evasion noted.

    He was a fucking italian who never set foot in the USA.

    Dagos are nothing but shit. Considering them white people is ridiculous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
  • From Bob Duncan@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Monday, November 29, 2021 04:11:14
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bob7duncan@gmail.com

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.

    Evasion noted.

    He was a fucking italian who never set foot in the USA.

    Dagos are nothing but shit. Considering them white people is ridiculous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
  • From Bob Duncan@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Sunday, December 05, 2021 15:37:40
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bob7duncan@gmail.com

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.

    Evasion noted.

    He was a fucking italian who never set foot in the USA.

    Dagos are nothing but shit. Considering them white people is ridiculous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
  • From B1ackwater@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Tuesday, December 07, 2021 22:17:15
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bw@magik.beanz.net

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.


    Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
  • From Bob Duncan@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Friday, January 21, 2022 06:28:23
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bob7duncan@gmail.com

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.

    Evasion noted.

    He was a fucking italian who never set foot in the USA.

    Dagos are nothing but shit. Considering them white people is ridiculous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
  • From Bob Duncan@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 23:16:54
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bob7duncan@gmail.com

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.

    Evasion noted.

    He was a fucking italian who never set foot in the USA.

    Dagos are nothing but shit. Considering them white people is ridiculous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
  • From B1ackwater@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 23:16:53
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bw@magik.beanz.net

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.


    Wrong.

    "In May 1498, Columbus sailed west across the
    Atlantic for the third time. He visited Trinidad
    and the South American mainland before returning
    to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where
    the colonists had staged a bloody revolt against
    the Columbus brothers’ mismanagement and brutality.
    Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities
    had to send a new governor to take over. Meanwhile,
    the native Taino population, forced to search for
    gold and to work on plantations, was decimated
    (within 60 years after Columbus landed, only a few
    hundred of what may have been 250,000 Taino were
    left on their island). Christopher Columbus was
    arrested and returned to Spain in chains."

    https://www.history.com/topics/exploration/christopher-columbus

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
  • From Bob Duncan@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 19:24:01
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa, alt.tv.pol-incorrect
    XPost: soc.history
    From: bob7duncan@gmail.com

    Ubiquitous wrote

    For over a decade, Columbus has been painted as a mass murderer,
    committing all sorts of crimes in the New World, including genocide.

    Evasion noted.

    He was a fucking italian who never set foot in the USA.

    Dagos are nothing but shit. Considering them white people is ridiculous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)