• Re: Civil war site in Kentucky designated as national monument

    From BeamMeUpScotty-There's NO sign of i@1:229/2 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Saturday, October 27, 2018 20:15:29
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    From: Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov

    On 10/27/2018 07:23 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/civil-war-site-in-kentucky-designated-as- national-monument

    NICHOLASVILLE, Ky. – When Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamations to free slaves during the Civil War, it did not apply to Kentucky, one of the few slave states that did not join the Confederacy.

    That's because he (Lincoln) illegally freed the slaves in the south.....
    where he wasn't even the President. Ironically it kept slavery in the
    NORTH so technically while the whole thing was a clusterfuk the NORTH
    became the last bastion of slavery in the United States.
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  • From Leroy N. Soetoro@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, October 27, 2018 23:23:05
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    From: leroysoetoro@hrc-rejected.com

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/civil-war-site-in-kentucky-designated-as- national-monument

    NICHOLASVILLE, Ky. – When Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation
    Proclamations to free slaves during the Civil War, it did not apply to Kentucky, one of the few slave states that did not join the Confederacy.

    But Elijah P. Marrs did not want to wait. He escaped slavery in September
    1864 to join the Union Army in Louisville and told some of his fellow
    slaves, "We might as well go."

    "If we staid at home we would be murdered," he wrote in his autobiography.
    "If we joined the army and were slain in battle, we would at least die
    fighting for principle and freedom."

    Marrs was one of about 10,000 African-Americans who eventually came to
    Camp Nelson in central Kentucky, a Union Army depot during the Civil War
    that became a recruiting center for black soldiers and a refugee camp for
    their families. Saturday, the camp became the country's latest national monument, the first area to gain the designation under Republican
    President Donald Trump.

    "The Park Service tells story. The story here is a story about fighting
    for freedom in a slave, Union state," U.S. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke
    said. "We don't hide from history. We learn from history. This history is
    an important part of the American history and story."

    Camp Nelson was once 4,000 acres, used to train and supply the Army of the Ohio. Today, 525 acres have been preserved to include a museum and reconstructed buildings. Saturday's ceremony took place in a replica
    barracks, where two soldiers squeezed into bunks atop of straw mattresses.
    One of those soldiers was Jesse Comasuell Toll, according to his great grandson, Robert P. Gates Sr.

    Gates attended Saturday's ceremony and opened it with prayer. He said his great-grandfather, who was born a free man but lived under the threat of slavery, lived at the camp and attended a church. Gates now pastors that church, the Historic First Baptist Church of Camp Nelson.

    "They came here because it was closer to freedom than it was to go to
    Canada," he said.

    Kentucky has a complicated Civil War history. It never officially joined
    the Confederacy, but it allowed slavery and was filled with Confederate sympathizers who attempted to set up a shadow government in the western
    party of the state. Confederate soldiers briefly occupied the state
    capital of Frankfort before Union forces took it back.

    "At a time in our country when there are divisions, this is the real story
    of America," Republican U.S. Rep. Andy Barr said.

    Local officials have been trying to get Camp Nelson federal recognition
    for years. It's a long process, requiring the land to be transferred to
    the federal government and various other legal requirements. The timing of Saturday's ceremony was fortunate for Barr, who in just 10 days will be on
    the ballot for re-election in a competitive district. He faces a serious challenge from Democrat Amy McGrath, a retired Marine fighter pilot who
    has raised more money than he has.

    Zinke, a former Congressman from Montana before Trump appointed him to
    lead the U.S. Department of Interior, told reporters the designation was
    not purposefully timed to give Barr a boost heading into the election. He
    noted he has worked with Barr on this issue back when he was in Congress.

    "This is the right place, and it is above politics," Zinke said. "This is
    red, white and blue."

    Zinke said Camp Nelson's status as a national monument will add it to the National Park Service, elevating its profile. The camp will have its own
    unique stamp for visitors to collect in their quest to visit all of the national monuments and parks. And it will get a professional
    superintendent and staff to manage the property.

    That was good news for Peggy McClintock, a tour administrator at the camp
    who gave Zinke and other dignitaries a tour of the facility before the ceremony. She wore purple sneakers to mark the occasion.

    "I had to wear flat shoes today so I can tap dance," she said.



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  • From Siri Cruise@1:229/2 to Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov on Sunday, October 28, 2018 00:25:13
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    From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com

    In article <Cc7BD.521537$VM2.493049@fx04.iad>,
    "BeamMeUpScotty-There's NO sign of intelligent life down here..."
    <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> wrote:

    That's because he (Lincoln) illegally freed the slaves in the south.....

    Actually......yeah, you fucked up again. Under federal law slaves were property,
    so captured slaves where classified as confisticated property to be dealt with as the US Army saw fit. This was also in accord with law and custom. The US Army
    lacked an overall policy on confisticated slaves: sometimes they were freed, sometimes kept as labourers. Lincoln eventually decided that all confisticated slaves were to be freed.

    where he wasn't even the President. Ironically it kept slavery in the
    NORTH so technically while the whole thing was a clusterfuk the NORTH
    became the last bastion of slavery in the United States.

    States not in rebellion could not have private property confisticated as war booty. Since Lincoln's goal was not end slavery, but to end the rebellion, he didn't deal with slavery in general before his murder. Andrew Johnson was forced
    to act by a Republican Congress that decided that war had to produce more than just a bunch of one legged men, so they pushed through the amendments to abolish
    slavery.

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